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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:45 pm

Is this infographic the first time Nissan (or any credible manufacturer) has stated full door-to-door autonomy (presumably by utilizing a remote human back-up driver) will be delivered by 2020?

Nissan’s future generation ProPILOT technology – available for real-world use from 2020

https://newsroom.nissan-global.com/rele ... rban-roads
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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:09 pm

May be. Here's an article discussing claims/forecasts of AV timelines as of June: https://venturebeat.com/2017/06/04/self-driving-car-timeline-for-11-top-automakers/

I suspect full door-to-door won't be possible except for a few limited urban areas by 2020, but I think there's a decent chance we'll get L4 on freeways by then.
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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:32 pm

GRA wrote:...I suspect full door-to-door won't be possible except for a few limited urban areas by 2020, but I think there's a decent chance we'll get L4 on freeways by then.
Isn't google waymo doing this now?

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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Sun Nov 12, 2017 5:34 pm

I'd say that's pretty much still dem/val. I'm talking about the point when the public can buy cars with L4 capability.
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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:59 pm

Followup to earlier post, via IEVS:
Safety Probe Coming For Vegas Self-Driving Shuttle Accident – video
https://insideevs.com/safety-probe-coming-for-vegas-self-driving-shuttle-wreck/

The recent accident involving an autonomous NAVYA Arma electric shuttle in Las Vegas just moments after its official launch, has now became the subject of U.S. National Transportation Safety Board investigation.

The cause of the collision is known – a semi truck backed into the stopped shuttle in an intersection. Fault was found because of the human error of the truck diver, who was then cited and a received ticket, however the accident appeared to still have been easily avoidable – had the shuttle taken appropriate and expected actions to avoid the incident. . . .

“There have been other crashes involving self-driving vehicles but this was the first involving a self-driving vehicle operating in public service, O‘Neil said. Four NTSB investigators were expected to arrive in Las Vegas on Friday.” – via Reuters

Thankfully, the accident was not a serious one, as the Navya ARMA shuttle’s front end sustained only minor damage, and resumed service the next day.

However, the accident could have potentially be avoided if shuttle would have used its horn to alert the truck driver (as would be expected of a human driver) or simple reverse a few feet (the street was clear behind the vehicle at the time). These are areas were autonomous vehicles could be upgraded. . . .
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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:40 am

That article is full of mistakes. InsideEVs should proofread and edit their material before posting it.
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