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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Sun Oct 21, 2018 4:13 pm

From the article:
Eleven percent said they’d be tempted to have a nap, read a paper, or watch a film while using one of the highway-assist features available today, even though every automaker peddling the tech requires drivers to pay attention to the road at all times. “It’s really worrying that consumers are believing the hype.”

Worrying, but not at all surprising, as the research is clear that people will trust automation while it's still much too unreliable for vehicle control use. Google abandoned driver-assist and instead decided to go for full autonomy after watching video of their regular employees beta-testing their driver-assist system (which was far more capable than A/P was when the latter was introduced, and probably still is). People almost immediately disengaged from driving and did all the activities noted above plus others, even though they knew the systems were immature - the most extreme case involved one employee who fell asleep and stayed that way for 27 minutes while the car cruised at 60 mph.
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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Tue Oct 23, 2018 1:00 am

Ford is the first company to test self-driving cars in Washington, DC
https://www.engadget.com/2018/10/22/for ... ington-dc/

Addison Lee's self-driving taxis could hit London by 2021
https://www.engadget.com/2018/10/22/sel ... -oxbotica/
Maybe their partner Oxbotica is another name to watch? Hadn't heard of them until now.

Why People Keep Rear-Ending Self-Driving Cars
https://www.wired.com/story/self-drivin ... tatistics/

GM's self-driving car reportedly has trouble recognizing pedestrians:
https://www.engadget.com/2018/10/24/gm- ... destrians/

Thanks to a poster at TMC, they pointed to https://www.reuters.com/article/us-gm-s ... SKCN1MY0CK which as a bit more info.

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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Tue Oct 30, 2018 4:33 pm

Via GCC:
Volkswagen, Mobileye and Champion Motors to commercialize mobility-as-a-service with self-driving EVs in Israel
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2018/10/20181030-vw.html

Volkswagen Group, Mobileye and Champion Motors plan to commercialize Mobility-as-a-Service (MaaS) with self-driving electric vehicles in Israel. Development will begin in early 2019 and roll out in phases reaching full commercialization in 2022. . . .

Operating as “New Mobility in Israel,” the group’s proposal was formally accepted by the Israeli government during a private ceremony at the Smart Mobility Summit 2018 in Tel Aviv.

“New Mobility in Israel” will roll out in phases and grow quickly from several dozen to hundreds of self-driving electric vehicles.

The Volkswagen Group will provide the electric vehicles (EVs) and bring in its in-depth knowledge and competency about design and deployment of user-centered mobility services.

Mobileye will provide its level-4 AV Kit—a turn-key, driverless solution comprising hardware, driving policy, safety software and map data. Champion Motors will run the fleet operations and control center. . . .

The government of Israel has committed to support the project in three main areas: furnishing legal and regulatory support; sharing the required infrastructure and traffic data; and providing access to infrastructure as needed.

While “New Mobility in Israel” will be Israel’s first commercial Mobility-as-a-Service with self-driving vehicles, all facilitations and rulings will be applied to all other ventures that wish to operate a Mobility-as-a-Service in Israel.

Volkswagen, Mobileye and Champion Motors will use “New Mobility in Israel” to serve as a global beta site for testing and introducing the Mobility-as-a-Service model using autonomous electric vehicles. . . .


I'm wondering if we should start a separate topic for MaaS companies (AV or not), and use this one solely for technical issues related to AVs. Opinions?
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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:34 pm

California gives Waymo the state’s first permit to test self-driving cars without humans
https://qz.com/1444810/california-is-le ... ut-humans/

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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Thu Nov 01, 2018 4:43 pm

Via GCC:
Ford and Baidu announce joint autonomous vehicle testing in Beijing with SAE L4 vehicles; Apollo system
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2018/11/20181101-fordbaidu.html

. . . The Baidu-Ford L4 Autonomous Vehicle Test Project is a two-year initiative, with on-road testing slated to begin by the end of this year. The project will see Ford and Baidu cooperating to develop and test autonomous vehicles that are designed to meet the Level 4 (L4) driving automation standard as defined by SAE International. This means that upon completion of the development and testing process, the vehicles will be capable of operating autonomously within a specific geographic area and under certain weather conditions. . . .

In the lead-up to the kickoff, a team of Ford engineers at the company’s Nanjing Research and Engineering Center (REC) was set up to convert the vehicles into Autonomous Vehicle Platforms (AVPs) in order to prepare them to be fit with Baidu’s Apollo Virtual Driver System (VDS).

All vehicles have now been equipped with the Virtual Driver System (VDS) and related hardware and are ready for testing. The AV tests will be conducted on open roads in Beijing that are specially designated for AV testing, with the option of exploring further opportunities in other Chinese cities in the future in accordance with local regulations.

Ford is a founding member of the Apollo Committee, an advisory group for Baidu’s Apollo autonomous driving open platform, with Ford Autonomous Vehicles LLC president and CEO Sherif Marakby serving as a board member. The new project builds on the existing collaborative partnership between the two companies. . . .
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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Sat Nov 03, 2018 4:07 pm

Elon's at it again w/his crazy timelines and distorted reality. From TMC:
Elon Musk: EAP solved, on track for FSD completion in 2019 (No one else is close!)
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... se.133947/

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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Wed Nov 07, 2018 12:46 am

Waymo blames human error for motorcycle accident involving self-driving car
https://mashable.com/article/waymo-motorcycle-accident/ points to https://medium.com/waymo/the-very-human ... c4d2b4e8ee.

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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:04 am

cwerdna wrote:California gives Waymo the state’s first permit to test self-driving cars without humans
https://qz.com/1444810/california-is-le ... ut-humans/

Thanks to a post at https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads ... st-3185105, there's a link to a ~100 page PDF at https://drive.google.com/file/d/1oZ9zwm ... 1Zhaf/view.

I probably won't have time to dig into it for awhile. Pages 55 to 100 seem to be their safety report that I've skimmed thru before. There's a fair amount of redacted info.

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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Wed Nov 14, 2018 1:44 am

Waymo Set to Debut Autonomous Ride-Hailing Service to Select Arizona Users in December
https://www.macrumors.com/2018/11/13/wa ... -december/ points to

Hyperdrive
Waymo to Start First Driverless Car Service Next Month
Under a new name, the Google sibling plans to methodically build a futuristic rival to Uber and Lyft. This is how it will unfold.
https://www.bloomberg.com/hyperdrive

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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:51 pm

Via GCC:
Walmart and Ford to test grocery delivery with self-driving cars in Miami-Dade
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2018/11/20181115-walmartford.html

Walmart and Ford are partnering on a pilot program in Miami-Dade County on the use of self-driving vehicles to deliver fresh groceries picked by Walmart personal shoppers to customers.

Postmates is the delivery partner, and it already connected to Ford’s digital platform. . . .
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