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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:35 pm

GRA wrote: Edmunds' video comparison test of Tesla's AP2.0 in a Model 3 and Cadillac's Supercruise in a CT6: <snip>

their Editor-in-chief says, after first praising the fact that AP was updated to fix the specific problem identified in the first video and that it was done OTA, goes on to say
But it also reveals the extent to which customers like us are being used as Guinea pigs on a safety critical system. . . Yes, Tesla litters the handbook with caveats. And yes, they describe Autosteer as a beta system. But Autopilot was launched back in October 2014. At what point does it stop being beta?

A good question, but I believe the wrong one. I think the correct question is "When is it acceptable for a manufacturer to use members of the public to test immature, safety-of-life critical systems, with or without their consent?" IMO the correct answer to that question is "Never".

CR (and the NTSB back in September) weigh in with the same criticisms about AP, via IEVS: https://insideevs.com/tesla-told-to-improve-autopilot-release-claimed-worlds-safest-data/
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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:15 am

ProPilot helps the 2018 Nissan LEAF to achieve a 5-star rating as the first car to undergo Europe's new extended NCAP testing:
NCAP as quoted by InsideEVs wrote:The LEAF is the first car to be assessed against Euro NCAP’s improved and extended protocols for 2018. The 2018 protocol sees the introduction of a raft of new tests which address key crash scenarios involving cars, pedestrians and now also the growing number of cyclists.

In these Euro NCAP tests, the LEAF earned a 93 per cent rating for adult safety and an 86 per cent rating for child protection. The safety rating is determined from a series of vehicle tests that, in a simplified way, reflect important real-life accident scenarios that could result in injuries.

New LEAF 5-star rating reflects the advanced driver assistance systems packaged on the car. Technologies such as camera and radar feature extensively to provide benefits such a pedestrian recognition and form the basis of Nissan’s acclaimed ProPILOT system for safer, more confident driving.




In light of the recent accident in Tempe, I'm wondering if those pedestrian tests may also be conducted at nighttime in future tests.
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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Mon May 07, 2018 7:42 pm

Via ABG:
Uber hires former NTSB chair to advise on safety culture after fatal crash
Fatal accident was likely caused by software issue
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/05/07/uber-hires-ntsb-chair-safety/

. . . Online news outlet The Information reported Monday that Uber has determined the likely cause of the fatal collision was a problem with the software that decides how the car should react to objects it detects. The outlet said the car's sensors detected the pedestrian but the software decided it did not need to react right away.

"We have initiated a top-to-bottom safety review of our self-driving vehicles program, and we have brought on former NTSB Chair Christopher Hart to advise us on our overall safety culture," Uber said Monday. "Our review is looking at everything from the safety of our system to our training processes for vehicle operators, and we hope to have more to say soon. . . ."
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Re: Autonomous Vehicles, LEAF and others...

Wed May 23, 2018 6:46 pm

Via ABG:
Americans are even more wary of autonomous cars now
AAA study finds people's distrust of self-driving cars is increasing
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/05/22/americans-are-even-more-wary-of-autonomous-cars-now/

n the wake of recent autonomous vehicle crashes including an Uber fully autonomous test car killing a woman pushing a bike, and a semi-autonomous Tesla Model X hitting a concrete divider, AAA conducted another study of the public's perception of such cars. It's a follow-up to a study conducted at the end of the past two years. . . .

Specifically, 73 percent of those surveyed said they would be too afraid to ride in a fully autonomous vehicle, which is up 10 points over the last survey. Americans also aren't comfortable being a pedestrian around autonomous vehicles either, with 63 percent saying they would feel less safe as a pedestrian or cyclist on the road with self-driving cars.

Another interesting statistic is that while millennials were almost split down the middle in whether they would be too afraid to ride in a fully autonomous car in the first survey, they shifted negatively this time around. Instead of 49 percent being too afraid to ride in a self-driving car, the percentage jumped to 64 percent. In previous studies, younger people surveyed had been more accepting of the technology.
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