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Re: Anyone into electric cycling?

Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:41 pm

At 250 watts that had better be a mid drive motor that uses the bike's gearing. A hub motor or even a separate EZIP-type drive wouldn't be much good on hills with that output...
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Re: Anyone into electric cycling?

Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:01 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:At 250 watts that had better be a mid drive motor that uses the bike's gearing. A hub motor or even a separate EZIP-type drive wouldn't be much good on hills with that output...

The photo appears to show mid-drive, and I found a press release which says:
A high level of ride comfort is made possible thanks to the 250-watt centrally-mounted motor.
https://www.continental-corporation.com/en/press/press-releases/three-wheeled-e-cargo-bikes-124352
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Re: Anyone into electric cycling?

Mon Mar 19, 2018 10:25 pm

There is also the lesser-known fact that motors rated for the EU at 250 watts will often have a 500 watt (or even higher) maximum rating for short bursts.
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Re: Anyone into electric cycling?

Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:14 pm

I'm waiting this evening for my first new, up to date bike in many years to be delivered. If it isn't damaged in shipping and I don't have to refuse delivery, tomorrow night I'll be riding a Magnum Metro.

https://www.magnumbikes.com/product/magnum-metro/

I think I need a step-thru now, but this bike should have enough power (500 watt geared hub motor with 750 watt surge) and speed (about 25MPH in pedal assist mode) to satisfy my needs. Having disk brakes (and hydraulic at that!) will be a first for me. I can't recommend the company at this point, though, as I had trouble getting a refund for a $1000 kit I ordered that was listed as "In Stock" but wasn't. I bought the bike from another dealer. The controls aren't especially to my liking, but it seems that ALL of the E-Bikes have stopped using the right side twist throttle, left side twist shifter I have on my EZIP bikes. I'll see what I can do with them. I'm getting free professional assembly from Velofix.


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Re: Anyone into electric cycling?

Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:11 am

After ordering THREE bikes, only to find that they weren't really in stock the first two times, I now have a Magnum Metro. It was a week late arriving, and only three weeks after I expected to have one. It was, however, worth the wait.

I took my first ride this evening. I was blown away, actually. I had been hoping the bike would be "good" for me, but it exceeded my expectations by quite a bit. It isn't perfect, but between the rearranged bar and controls (by the Velofix guy who assembled the bike, and by me), and the bike's great power and power handling, the "short shakedown ride" I had planned turned into a 22 mile outing in which I stopped less often to rest, felt less pain and traveled farther than I have in a couple of years. Based on this ride I'd say my effective range will be about 50 miles.

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Re: Anyone into electric cycling?

Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:28 pm

Nice looking bike :) so was it around $2k delivered then? I've kind of been looking on and off for an e-bike, I was hoping for <$1k but then again I don't want a cheap bike either, want it to have decent components :)
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Re: Anyone into electric cycling?

Fri Jul 27, 2018 3:45 pm

jjeff wrote:Nice looking bike :) so was it around $2k delivered then? I've kind of been looking on and off for an e-bike, I was hoping for <$1k but then again I don't want a cheap bike either, want it to have decent components :)


Yes, $2k. They make an almost identical bike with mechanical disc brakes instead of hydraulic, 7 speed Shimano transmission instead of 8, and less expensive forks, but the same battery and hubmotor (and I think frame) for about $300 less. That's the Ui6. I'm not as impressed with the hydraulic disk brakes as I expected, so I think the Ui6 should be virtually the same riding experience, with a slightly lower top speed. Then there's the Surface 604 (IIRC) Rook, which is similar but uses a quieter direct drive hubmotor with less torque, and a smaller battery, for $1500. That would be a good bike if your terrain is more level. I suggest you watch prices on these bikes in the off season.
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Re: Anyone into electric cycling?

Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:38 pm

I have a GoCycle I am really pleased with. It is less a touring bike than Leftie bought but a lot easier to put in a Tesla ;-)
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Re: Anyone into electric cycling?

Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:55 pm

Magnum makes a folding 20" bike with the same motor and battery as the Metro. I assume it's pretty fast, if squirrel-y....
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Re: Anyone into electric cycling?

Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:42 am

I created an electric full size folder but have had some unfortunate things happen and haven't been able to ride in a while. Have several others too! A very practical and fun form of transit!
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