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Re: Tesla's autopilot, on the road

Tue Sep 11, 2018 8:36 pm

cwerdna wrote:In the case of the recent Model S that crashed into a firetruck in Utah...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/tal ... 617168002/ says
According to Tesla data shared by South Jordan police in a statement, the driver repeatedly engaged and disengaged Tesla's Autosteer and Traffic Aware Cruise Control on multiple occasions while traveling around suburbs south of Salt Lake City.

During this "drive cycle," the Model S registered "more than a dozen instances of her hands being off the steering wheel." On two occasions, the driver had her hands off the wheel for more than a minute each time, reengaging briefly with the steering wheel only after a visual alert from the car.

"About 1 minute and 22 seconds before the crash, she re-enabled Autosteer and Cruise Control, and then, within seconds, took her hands off the steering wheel again," the police report says. "She did not touch the steering wheel for the next 80 seconds until the crash happened."

The car was programmed by the driver to travel at 60 mph. The driver finally touched the brake pedal "a second prior to the crash."

Police said the driver not only failed to abide by the guidelines of Autopilot use but also engaged the system on a street with no center median and with stop lights.
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The Utah driver was issued a traffic citation for "failure to keep proper lookout" under South Jordan City municipal code.

Also, the story says the "driver" says she was distracted by her phone.

Seems like she's now suing Tesla and others for $300K: https://www.zdnet.com/article/tesla-sue ... ing-phone/. :roll:

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Re: Tesla's autopilot, on the road

Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:53 pm

Via IEVS:
Tesla Model 3 Autopilot Versus Bikers & Pedestrians
https://insideevs.com/tesla-model-3-autopilot-versus-bikers-pedestrians/

This is well beyond the state of the art for A/P now, but still interesting video, especially to someone like me who walks and bikes a lot and has to frequently avoid being killed or injured by distracted drivers.
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Re: Tesla's autopilot, on the road

Sun Sep 16, 2018 4:14 pm

Via GCR:
Tesla drivers say latest software update disabled Autopilot
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1118784_tesla-drivers-say-latest-software-update-disabled-autopilot

A report in Jalopnik Thursday cited several owners on Tesla user forums reporting that their cars' Autopilot systems no longer work since the update.

One user even said that his Model 3 displays a persistent message on the display screen that his car's automatic emergency braking, regenerative braking, and traction control aren't working, either.

While Autopilot so far is mostly a driver convenience feature, automatic emergency braking is a key safety feature available on a wide variety of modern cars.

The new software, version 8.1 2018.34.1, was supposed to make Autopilot more responsive, and some users have reported that it has made lane changes quicker and smoother.

The update has been rolling out over time. Some cars have had it for over a week, while some owners are just getting the software.

When owners having problems with the software have contacted Tesla, they report the company has said it is aware of the problem and is working on a fix. Some owners were promised the fix Wednesday. Others have been told Friday, others within two days.

It's not clear what cars are affected adversely and if any of those cars have received an effective fix.

Green Car Reports did not receive an immediate response when we reached out to Tesla to ask about the update.

The update has also generated complaints that the Autopilot system "nags" drivers more frequently to keep their hands on the steering wheel. At the same time, it reportedly makes it easier to dismiss those warnings by touching any button on the steering wheel without actually gripping the rim.

In a July call with investors, Tesla CEO Elon Musk said a new version 9 software update would start rolling out in August. So far, a few users have seen previews of version 9, which reportedly changes the vertical center control screen in the Model S and Model X to act more like the floating horizontal screen in the Model 3.

Musk said that the release of version 9 would begin to enable some of the first fully self-driving features in Autopilot . . .

In a Twitter post on Sept. 5, Musk updated the version 9-release time frame, saying that early users may get updates in another week, and that it will roll out broadly by the end of September..

Presumably a bug that can be quickly rectified.
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