TeamChargePoint
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QUESTION: for all EV owners

Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:59 pm

What do you wish you asked your car dealer about before buying your EV?
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jjeff
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Leaf Number: 422121
Location: MSP MN

Re: QUESTION: for all EV owners

Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:25 pm

Not so much I wish I had asked, as my sales person knew even less of the Leaf than I, but I wish I had known of the heat pump advantage getting an SV or SL Leaf over the S I purchased.
I didn't really know about the battery issues either but living in a cooler climate, I kind of lucked out there.
2012 SL purchased used 2/'16
2013 S w/QC purchased new
Juicebox Premium 60a L1/L2 EVSE, Ebusbar 16a L1/L2 EVSE
'12 EVSEupgrade'd 20a L1/L2 EVSE, '13 EVSEupgrade'd adjustable 6-20a L2, 6-13a L1 EVSE
Zencar 13, 20, 30a L1/L2 portable EVSE
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DNAinaGoodWay
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Leaf Number: 23156
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Re: QUESTION: for all EV owners

Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:43 pm

A couple times now I've seen dealers with big EV inventories and 90-100% have no QC option. They didn't think it was important and told me it wasn't hurting sales. OK, maybe some customers didn't need it and knew that, but I'm betting a lot of customers had no idea what they were getting into and will regret the lack of it like they'd regret discovering the ICEv they got couldn't accept a gas nozzle but has to be trickle fed gas for hours. I've met a couple of drivers at L2s who had no idea what QC was, and didn't know they could have really utilized a QC port. Dealers just want to move metal, they're not focusing on education.
'12 SL last reading @ 2 yr, 22k, 260 GIDs, 62.35 Ahr

'15 SV w/QC, Mfd 5/14, Leased 8/14, 292 GIDs, 64.38 Ahr when new
@ 36 months, 34k, 270 GID, 57.49 Ahr

'17 Bolt LT



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Nubo
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Re: QUESTION: for all EV owners

Sun Oct 01, 2017 7:27 pm

TeamChargePoint wrote:What do you wish you asked your car dealer about before buying your EV?


I think it unlikely that a dealer anywhere could have told me something I hadn't already found out here. Likely a lot less, and possibly less truthfully. Basically I view dealerships as an impediment between me and the car I've decided upon.
I noticed you're still working with polymers.

Evoforce
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Re: QUESTION: for all EV owners

Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:12 pm

How many Quick/Fast Chargers are there, and is your manufacturer building or are others building as many as possible for ease of travel in the near term? When are you actually going work at supplying (not just compliance) to get 1 or more long range BEVs into customers hands? Where is the BEV long range pickup truck?
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*2011 Leaf 1 bought 2/28/15 @ 28,000ish mi 10 bar (8 bars @ 11/25/15 @ 37,453 ) (New lizard @ 39,275 mi @ 1/20/2016) Now 52,166 mi.
*Tesla Model S 61,000 mi
*2011 Leaf 2 bought 4/28/15 @ 24,000ish mi 12 bar (new lizard Dec. 2014 @ 22,273 mi) Now 35,485 mi

cwerdna
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Re: QUESTION: for all EV owners

Sun Oct 01, 2017 11:25 pm

Nubo wrote:
TeamChargePoint wrote:What do you wish you asked your car dealer about before buying your EV?


I think it unlikely that a dealer anywhere could have told me something I hadn't already found out here. Likely a lot less, and possibly less truthfully. Basically I view dealerships as an impediment between me and the car I've decided upon.

I was in the same boat as the 1st part of Nubo's statement. I'd already been hanging out here for 2 years before I got my 1st Leaf.

I leased my 1st Leaf. Back it went at end of lease. I bought my 2nd one used from a used car dealer who got them at Manheim auctions.

'13 blue Leaf SV w/premium package (owned)
'13 blue Leaf SV w/QC + LED & premium packages (lease over, car returned)
'06 Prius

LeftieBiker
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Re: QUESTION: for all EV owners

Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:30 am

I was a complete newbie to the EV car scene, but got very lucky. Doing it again, I'd want to know about S vs SV and SL, and Premium Package vs not even having a backup camera. I went in wanting to lease an S for $99 a month as advertised, but happily the lack of cruise control on the S, along with the non-availability of the advertised cars for $99, kept me there for hours, and I ended up with an SV with Premium for $149 a month instead. I think they were afraid I was going to die of heat stroke in their dealership. ;-)
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

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TomT
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Re: QUESTION: for all EV owners

Mon Oct 02, 2017 9:28 am

My dealer was clueless so there was no point in asking them anything! I already knew far more than they did!

TeamChargePoint wrote:What do you wish you asked your car dealer about before buying your EV?
59,991 miles/12 bars/289 Gids/68.54 AHr/101% SOH/101.64% Hx 7May15 w/ new Lizard (barely made the warranty).
71,770 miles/12 bars/256 Gids/59.04 AHr/88% SOH/87.92% Hx 3Mar16 at lease return.

Now driving a 2016 Volt Premier. Model 3 reserved.

joeriv
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Re: QUESTION: for all EV owners

Tue Oct 03, 2017 1:48 pm

Same as cwerdna and nubo - at least my Leaf dealer is knowledgeable, but after getting an education through this Forum, I did not feel at any disadvantage in my dealings with them.
2017 Leaf S with QC, JUN mfg date

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