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"Confronting Collapse" by Michael Ruppert (book and movie)

Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:19 pm

Book: http://www.amazon.com/Confronting-Colla ... 1603582649

Movie: http://www.amazon.com/Collapse-Michael- ... pd_sim_b_2

Original Blog: http://mikeruppert.blogspot.com/
New Blog: http://www.collapsenet.com/

video from collapsenet:
http://www.collapsenet.com/index.php?op ... &Itemid=28

Just saw this movie last night, kind of depressing, but all too real.

Get your gardening skills ready (an prepare your soil), buy some gold and organic seeds to barter with (and grow food), it's all about what happens after peak oil, and the decline of population (since oil is required to keep such a large # of people alive)

Our politicians, you know the ones who told us the full truth about the economy, are also lying about peak oil as well.. and what it really means for the world.

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Re: "Confronting Collapse" by Michael Ruppert (book and movie)

Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:28 pm

Hi Mitch.
Just bought the DVD for $10 at amazon.com It sounds like an insightful documentary. I also highly recommend FUEL documentary released in 2010.
Thanks for the post...
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Re: "Confronting Collapse" by Michael Ruppert (book and movie)

Sun Sep 26, 2010 12:53 pm

Makes me glad that I'm an old codger as "humanity's" willingness to face a difficult issue and make an educated choice hasn't impressed me yet. Then you have those that just pray harder in anticipation of their ascendancy to heaven as the apocalypse finally comes.
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Re: "Confronting Collapse" by Michael Ruppert (book and movie)

Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:21 pm

The DVD is also on netflix.

For non-doomer ideas read John Michael Greer.

http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/

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Sun Sep 26, 2010 2:58 pm

Yeah, I saw it last night. Left me a bit bummed out. That guy needs to quit smoking too.
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Re: "Confronting Collapse" by Michael Ruppert (book and movie)

Sun Sep 26, 2010 3:32 pm

mwalsh wrote:Yeah, I saw it last night. Left me a bit bummed out. That guy needs to quit smoking too.


yep, although I don't think he's worried about the "smoking" killing him...

I was surprised that his new web blog costs $10/month, or $100/year, or $1,000 lifetime membership,
although I guess he does need some way to make a living.

if even 1/4 of what his predicitions come true, we should all do some "preparation"
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Re: "Confronting Collapse" by Michael Ruppert (book and movie)

Sun Sep 26, 2010 5:04 pm

mitch672 wrote:although I guess he does need some way to make a living.


Hey, here's an idea for him....get a freaking job like the rest of us. Then he can do the "doom and gloom" prophecy circuit as a hobby or part-time.

Not that I disagree with the guy in any way, but the "poor me, look how broke I am" bit at the end really rubbed me the wrong way.
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Re: "Confronting Collapse" by Michael Ruppert (book and movie)

Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:19 pm

I call BS on the whole doomsday peak oil theory. It will be no worse than the struggles we have today.
No possible change I will waste my money on such a book or blog.
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Re: "Confronting Collapse" by Michael Ruppert (book and movie)

Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:31 pm

smkettner wrote:I call BS on the whole doomsday peak oil theory.


Peak oil has nothing to do with doomers. It is just geology.

Apocalypse fantasy is not new. The "doomers" find one or the other reason to indulge in the fantasy - y2k, 2012, peak oil etc etc. It is quite widespread in rightwing Christian/Muslim theology as well.
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Re: "Confronting Collapse" by Michael Ruppert (book and movie)

Sun Sep 26, 2010 7:40 pm

doomer? He has some interesting facts, like it takes 10 calories of oil/natural gas energy for every calorie of food that is produced today. It takes 7 gallons of oil to make 1 tire.. It's not doomsday, it's just facts, that of the 7 billion people on earth currently, many will not survive with the loss of "cheap oil/energy", it's going to have to be a different way of life, where food is produced in local communities, without agrachemicals, and without the use of oil based pesticide, tractors, transportation, etc.

you can choose to ignore the warnings at your own peril, or you can take some steps to hedge on the future... I will do some preparing, but not to an excesive degree, but it never hurts to be prepared for the worst, and hopefully the reality will not be as bad.
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