GRA wrote:The weird part as far as Norcal is that we had snow in the Lake Tahoe area just last Sunday, as well as high winds, some light rain, thunder and lightning, hail, a funnel cloud and below average temps in the Bay Area and Sacramento. While not unheard of, snow in June is extremely rare - even May is somewhat uncommon. Temps have been climbing steadily since then, and were in the normal range the past couple of days, but are forecast to break records in many places for the next week or so, with pretty much the entire Central Valley in triple digits a little early in the season.
RegGuheert wrote:Meanwhile, back in the US, at all US temperature-monitoring stations maximum summertime temperatures are dropping at a rate of about 0.8C/century and percent of days above 90F is dropping at a rate of about 7%/century:
Of course, it's not just a summer thing: Winters also flatly contradict the alarmist talking points, with the west experiencing it's wettest winter ever just months after The New York Times quoted CA's prescient governor as saying "...we know that drought is becoming a regular occurrence...". In fact, CA just experienced the rainiest water year since records began 122 years ago.
High temperatures over 90F is not a meaningless statistic for us. In fact, that is our *exact* criteria for when we turn on the A/C in our home. If the forecast is for the high temperature to be 90F or above, the A/C goes on. If it is below that point, it stays off. What that means for us is that we run our air conditioner for less than about one month in hot summers (like last year) compared to when we first got married when, we had about two-and-a-half times as many days over 90F during hot years. Lately, we have had quite a few years with only a handful of days above 90F.DaveinOlyWA wrote:Likely another example of one statistic being meaningless.
That's an interesting comment from someone who just lived through the coldest winter in over 30 years. Thus the rapid wintertime cooling trend which began around the turn of the century in your part of the world continues, in spite of the previous two El-Nino-induced warm winters:DaveinOlyWA wrote:Colder Summers do not compensate for much warmer Winters.
Yes, the band drones on to distract everyone from the facts.WetEV wrote:And somehow, the ice keeps melting.
And the band played on.
That scientific explanation is very clear and tells exactly what happened and why. But WetEV does not accept that clear scientific explanation by the experts on the subject:NSIDC wrote:The early maximum appears to be the result of an intense wind pattern in September, spanning nearly half of the continent from the Wilkes Land area to the Weddell Sea, and centered on the Amundsen Sea. Stronger than average low pressure in this area, coupled with high pressure near the Falkland Islands, and near the southern tip of New Zealand in the Pacific Ocean, created two regions of persistent northwesterly winds. Sea ice extent decreased in the areas where the northwesterly winds reached the ice front.
And, , as detailed in this excellent explanation, wind was again a dominant factor in building up the ice which scuttled this year's "Ship of Fools III" mission into Hudson Bay:WetEV wrote:Not convinced, winds blow every year. Again, why was this year less than all other recorded years?
They must have been listening to the band rather than looking at the data:Dr. David Barber, lead scientist wrote:It became clear to me very quickly that these weren't just heavy ice conditions, these were unprecedented ice conditions,...
WetEV wrote:Then why is the ice melting?
Ice doesn't care.
It seems that you, like WetEV, interpret a reduction in sea ice extent as all "melting". The science is pretty clear, the reduction in Antarctic sea ice extent last September was due to the ice being rapidly compressed into a smaller area due to winds.ENIAC wrote:Here's why the ice is melting.WetEV wrote:Then why is the ice melting?
Ice doesn't care.
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Featu ... altemp.php
Sorry, guys, but the scientists are correct: natural processes still dominate the sea ice extent around Antarctica.NCAR wrote:The recent trend of increasing Antarctic sea ice extent — seemingly at odds with climate model projections — can largely be explained by a natural climate fluctuation, according to a new study led by the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR).