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Re: ABG: U.S. carbon emissions spike in 2018 after years of falling

Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:24 pm

Understanding and accepting AGW should be obvious to all, since researching AGW is just another "simple" modeling of a stochastic process,
e.g. the stock market, right?

As an example; Global Warming as a Manifestation of a Random Walk

https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/10.117 ... 2.0.CO%3B2

Most politicians and surely those on MNL will understand;

We hypothesize that the global and hemispheric temperature series are the result of a Markov process. The climate system is subjected to various forms of random impulses.


For those with inquisitive minds, do a search of; global warming as a stochastic process
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Re: ABG: U.S. carbon emissions spike in 2018 after years of falling

Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:58 am

lorenfb wrote:For those with inquisitive minds, do a search of; global warming as a stochastic process


Looking at climate change as a stochastic process makes a lot of sense. It would eliminate and explain all the failed "we're all going to die" dooms day global warming prophecies to my satisfaction.

lorenfb wrote:As an example; Global Warming as a Manifestation of a Random Walk

https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/10.117 ... 2.0.CO%3B2


I just realized there is not a pop corn eating emoji.
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Re: ABG: U.S. carbon emissions spike in 2018 after years of falling

Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:36 am

Oilpan4 wrote:Looking at climate change as a stochastic process makes a lot of sense. It would eliminate and explain all the failed "we're all going to die" dooms day global warming prophecies to my satisfaction.


We are all going to die, that is a fact of life.

Global warming will only slightly hasten this for people alive today in rich countries. So maybe you can sleep well at night. After all, poor people don't matter.

And don't listen to the curses of your great great grandchildren, or you will be up all night.
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Re: ABG: U.S. carbon emissions spike in 2018 after years of falling

Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:52 am

Oilpan4 wrote:
lorenfb wrote:For those with inquisitive minds, do a search of; global warming as a stochastic process

Looking at climate change as a stochastic process makes a lot of sense.

Just for giggles, explain what you think lorenfb means.
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Re: ABG: U.S. carbon emissions spike in 2018 after years of falling

Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:17 pm

“Cute”

No substance is a juvenile level of knowledge and discourse.
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Re: ABG: U.S. carbon emissions spike in 2018 after years of falling

Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:13 pm

WetEV wrote:
Oilpan4 wrote:Looking at climate change as a stochastic process makes a lot of sense. It would eliminate and explain all the failed "we're all going to die" dooms day global warming prophecies to my satisfaction.


We are all going to die, that is a fact of life.

Global warming will only slightly hasten this for people alive today in rich countries. So maybe you can sleep well at night. After all, poor people don't matter.

And don't listen to the curses of your great great grandchildren, or you will be up all night.


It's the global warming beliver minority that wants to make vehicle fuel, home heating fuel and electricity almost unaffordable.
That would hurt poor people the most.
I'm saying we need cheap electricity made from burning little to no fossil fuel that will discourage use of fossil fuels in transportation and home heating.

As newsweek proved, everyone believes in man made climate change but no one wants to pay for it.
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Re: ABG: U.S. carbon emissions spike in 2018 after years of falling

Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:52 pm

Oilpan4 wrote:It's the global warming beliver minority that wants to make vehicle fuel, home heating fuel and electricity almost unaffordable.
That would hurt poor people the most.


Education is expensive, until you try ignorance.
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Re: ABG: U.S. carbon emissions spike in 2018 after years of falling

Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:14 am

Oilpan4 wrote:
Looking at climate change as a stochastic process makes a lot of sense. It would eliminate and explain all the failed "we're all going to die" dooms day global warming prophecies to my satisfaction..


Yes, there will always be those that seek to find some form of a correlation in white noise data to support a belief (a priori)!
But one has the option of doing a FT (Fourier Transform) of the temporal global temperature data, right? Surely a causal relationship
can be determined from a stochastic process, i.e. the hypothesized AGW and its time domain data - similar to white noise, using FT;

http://joannenova.com.au/2013/05/fourie ... s-cooling/


Oilpan4 wrote:I just realized there is not a pop corn eating emoji.


My oversight!
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