Use solar heat effectively.

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Solar power is undoubtedly being an alternate source of energy. Solar heat could be accustomed to generate electrical energy making use of the right components. Nevertheless, solar energy is an ample source of free of charge of charge solar power. Solar heat is split into two groups, that are the exact similar as the groups of solar energy; active and passive. Active heating systems utilize radiation to heat objects indirectly creating use of a generator which turns the sun's energy to heat. Solar heaters of this sort are used to heat the water in a swimming pool.

Solar heat moves through the glass after which absorbed through the dark surface. This heat is stashed inside the wall, exactly where it definitely is performed steadily inward through the masonry. Solar heating collectors are a lot more helpful than solar electric panels, and as a result, you only want 1/4 the region for the identical quantity of heat.

I'm using solar heating for my 3000 gallon Endless pool here in Seattle, yes Seattle where there is no sun they say.
I like my water temp @ 90 deg F and need to swim daily to keep my arthritis away. I am achieving this with 100% solar the past couple weeks with a 4:00 pm swim time. These are are the simple plastic basic panels as well. Effective use is Late April to Late October. I'm working on my own controller to be more intelligent, efficient and conserve on pump usage. As summer approches, i let it get to 102 deg F for evening hot tub then letting it cool (sometimes radiate back out the panels) to 90 for morning if good good solar day expected.

Otherwise it's gas heated ($$$$$$)

Now HERE's a killer product for not only keeping your PV panels cool (which increases efficiency) ... they capture the waste heat for YOUR use. Way to go! I don't know why thin water jackets attached to the bottom side of panels idea wasn't marketed years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDbeZFbfOYk
http://www.sdesolar.com/gallery7.htm

EDIT:
I found an install vid too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQemNStW9pk
I see they include a thin layer of insulation on the back side of the water jacket. what an irony - insulation to keep the heat in, so the jacket can collect MORE of it, whereas normally you think of panels trying to eliminate heat. I'd LOVE to have the extra coin to buy/install a bunch of these.

hill said:

Now HERE's a killer product for not only keeping your PV panels cool (which increases efficiency) ... they capture the waste heat for YOUR use. Way to go! I don't know why thin water jackets attached to the bottom side of panels idea wasn't marketed years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDbeZFbfOYk
http://www.sdesolar.com/gallery7.htm
EDIT:
I found an install vid too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQemNStW9pk
I see they include a thin layer of insulation on the back side of the water jacket. what an irony - insulation to keep the heat in, so the jacket can collect MORE of it, whereas normally you think of panels trying to eliminate heat. I'd LOVE to have the extra coin to buy/install a bunch of these.

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Ours isn't on their list, but it sounds like a good idea since my rooftop has hit 140 degrees lately.

LEAFfan said:

hill said:

Now HERE's a killer product for not only keeping your PV panels cool (which increases efficiency) ... they capture the waste heat for YOUR use. Way to go! I don't know why thin water jackets attached to the bottom side of panels idea wasn't marketed years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDbeZFbfOYk
http://www.sdesolar.com/gallery7.htm
EDIT:
I found an install vid too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQemNStW9pk
I see they include a thin layer of insulation on the back side of the water jacket. what an irony - insulation to keep the heat in, so the jacket can collect MORE of it, whereas normally you think of panels trying to eliminate heat. I'd LOVE to have the extra coin to buy/install a bunch of these.

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Ours isn't on their list, but it sounds like a good idea since my rooftop has hit 140 degrees lately.

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I sent them a note asking for pricing. If you really see a 10% bump in production, it might be worth it to me to install on my solar. I'll post whatever they respond.

Jimmydreams said:

I sent them a note asking for pricing. If you really see a 10% bump in production, it might be worth it to me to install on my solar. I'll post whatever they respond.

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Thanks Jimmy! Looking at the install video, that cutout is right where my micro-inverters are, so it looks like they would fit. But I would need the dimensions for any of those listed panels and see if they match.

This SunDrum product fascinates me so I have poked around a little more.

Example system layout:
http://goo.gl/mEt4m

SunDrum brochure pdf:
http://goo.gl/svzGy

EchoFirst seems to be a competitor but try as I might I can't seem to find what the product actually is with all the marketing on their website that makes me crazy:
http://goo.gl/muKpu
I have now watched their video on their product and it is not like SunDrum at all but it is the same concept of capturing the waste heat of the solar panel. At the moment I like the idea of SunDrum a little better.

Dawn Solar seems to be another company that is sort of in this market space:
http://goo.gl/Ymbu8

Jimmydreams said:

I sent them a note asking for pricing. If you really see a 10% bump in production, it might be worth it to me to install on my solar. I'll post whatever they respond.

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I'm looking forward to hearing their response too. Who know ... maybe if some of us So Cal folks bulk buy, we can get a better rate. heck, even if I only did one inverter with these, it'd still be 20 panels . . . . that'd be a good amount of colling AND passive heat for personal use.

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hill said:

Jimmydreams said:

I sent them a note asking for pricing. If you really see a 10% bump in production, it might be worth it to me to install on my solar. I'll post whatever they respond.

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I'm looking forward to hearing their response too. Who know ... maybe if some of us So Cal folks bulk buy, we can get a better rate. heck, even if I only did one inverter with these, it'd still be 20 panels . . . . that'd be a good amount of colling AND passive heat for personal use.

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I watched the install video, but all I saw was a way to put insulation on the back. It didn't show how you could use the 'waste' heat. If they have to frame it first before the insulation is added, why couldn't you just glue some insulated panels on the back of each one?

LEAFfan said:

If they have to frame it first before the insulation is added, why couldn't you just glue some insulated panels on the back of each one?

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One needs to draw the heat away with liquid filled tubing to a heat exchanger or another type of heat sync. My link from the post above has a sample system schematic http://goo.gl/mEt4m

Spies said:

This SunDrum product fascinates me so I have poked around a little more.

Example system layout:
http://goo.gl/mEt4m

SunDrum brochure pdf:
http://goo.gl/svzGy

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I've been looking for something like this (the SunDrum layout), but instead of the backup tank, I wanted to install a full-house electric tankless water heater. The electric tankless takes lots of electricity to heat water from ~65F to ~110F for showers, and would cost more (almost 4x) than natural gas heater. However, with the solar system, the average water temp could stay above 90F already, reducing the electrical load (or increasing hot water flow) during water heating use.

Another advantage for using both tankless and solar thermal system together (instead of just the tankless system) is that there is still a water storage tank in case of emergency, your water tank is a reservoir of clean water.

http://www.plumbersurplus.com/Prod/Stiebel-Eltron-Tempra-15-Plus-Electric-Tankless-Water-Heater/136223/Cat/479

Spies said:

At the moment I like the idea of SunDrum a little better.

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Actually, the Echo one does three more things than SunDrum. Besides electricity and water heating it provides home heating, cooling, and fresh air ventilation. This one sounds the best to me, but I don't know about pricing.

JohnnySebring said:

I'm using solar heating for my 3000 gallon Endless pool here in Seattle, yes Seattle where there is no sun they say.
I like my water temp @ 90 deg F and need to swim daily to keep my arthritis away. I am achieving this with 100% solar the past couple weeks with a 4:00 pm swim time. These are are the simple plastic basic panels as well. Effective use is Late April to Late October. I'm working on my own controller to be more intelligent, efficient and conserve on pump usage. As summer approches, i let it get to 102 deg F for evening hot tub then letting it cool (sometimes radiate back out the panels) to 90 for morning if good good solar day expected.

Otherwise it's gas heated ($$$$$$)

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I don't know.