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Re: New (2013) motor and battery pack cutaway displays

Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:42 pm

TomT wrote:It has a very standard open mechanical differential like just about every other car in the world.


Where? I don't see anything that resembles a differential. Edit: Unless it's hidden in that one joint on the right side of the reduction gear.
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Re: New (2013) motor and battery pack cutaway displays

Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:47 pm

I don't have the shop manual in front of me but it is in there...

mwalsh wrote:
TomT wrote:It has a very standard open mechanical differential like just about every other car in the world.

Where? I don't see anything that resembles a differential. Edit: Unless it's hidden in that one joint on the right side of the reduction gear.
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Re: New (2013) motor and battery pack cutaway displays

Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:49 pm

TomT wrote:I don't have the shop manual in front of me but it is in there...


I don't think the shop manual covers it at all, which is why I'm asking. Perhaps they think they'll never need to replace one? :lol:
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Re: New (2013) motor and battery pack cutaway displays

Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:56 pm

Well, differentials, particularity the open variety, are pretty reliable...

mwalsh wrote:Perhaps they think they'll never need to replace one? :lol:
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Re: New (2013) motor and battery pack cutaway displays

Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:21 pm

It'll be an epicyclic type, with sets of planetaries inside a cage (of which you can see the outer housing with the crown teeth on) rather than a beveled pinion/crown.

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Re: New (2013) motor and battery pack cutaway displays

Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:38 pm

Sure is a lot of Aluminum, hopefully nobody tries to steal my motor to sell for scrap
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Re: New (2013) motor and battery pack cutaway displays

Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:01 pm

While we are on the subject, I remember seeing a very nice picture of the 2013 integrated stack with the parts labelled. i haven't been able to find it recently, though I was sure it was somewhere here on this board. I think it may even have used the term "Power Distribution" which we have since become painfully aware of. Can someone come up with a pointer to that?

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Re: New (2013) motor and battery pack cutaway displays

Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:50 pm

Here is the drawing of the 2011/2012 differential. It is at the very bottom.

mwalsh wrote:
TomT wrote:I don't have the shop manual in front of me but it is in there...
I don't think the shop manual covers it at all, which is why I'm asking. Perhaps they think they'll never need to replace one? :lol:


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Re: New (2013) motor and battery pack cutaway displays

Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:59 pm

planet4ever wrote:While we are on the subject, I remember seeing a very nice picture of the 2013 integrated stack with the parts labelled. i haven't been able to find it recently, though I was sure it was somewhere here on this board. I think it may even have used the term "Power Distribution" which we have since become painfully aware of. Can someone come up with a pointer to that?

Ray

Hello Ray,
Is this the one you were thinking of?

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I don't remember where I got it, since I have spent the last 2 months researching the LEAF and have read a lot of material, but I think it was a magazine article.
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Re: New (2013) motor and battery pack cutaway displays

Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:53 pm

babynuke wrote:Hello Ray, Is this the one you were thinking of?
Thanks! It's not exactly the one I was thinking of, but it's even clearer as to what the components do. One thing we have pointed out a number of places is that the PDM, Inverter, and Motor are all water cooled. There is only one external hose connection shown here, but I think it is clear that there are internal channels between the components for coolant flow, and that they are joined with gaskets. That should make it clear to any retrofit dreamers that there is no way to put that 6 kW charger into a 2011-2012 LEAF. (Unless they do a complete engine compartment transplant.)

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