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Re: Will dealers be allowed to gouge us?

Wed May 26, 2010 7:20 am

Bicster wrote:I think it will be much like the EV-11 test drive events, where you get to do a couple of laps on a closed course in a parking lot, and get to fondle the car a bit. It would only require a couple of LEAFs. I doubt we'll be getting test drives on public roads.


Disagree -- in the late fall before the spring arrival of the new smart fortwo's, MBZ/smart had a driving event that allowed each person to drive on real roads (along with a smart rep of course) to experience a combination of local and highway. These were close to production cars (actually I think they came from Canada) , not multi-million dollar prototypes so if Nissan has these available, I would think they would extend the driving experience accordingly --- a little drive around a parking lot may not be enough to belly-up for a $32K+ car (before tax rebates) for most people and it would be a mistake to think so. If on the other hand they only still have a handful of pre-production cars than I would agree --- hey, Nissan didn't even bring the LEAF to the Chicago Auto Show this year so perhaps you'll be right after all but I hope not.

As another aside, the smart rollout with Penske did it right with NASCAR style semi-trailers decorated with smart cars on their sides so the traveling caravan was quickly identified when they traveled from city to city. They also had very knowledgeable marketing/sales people, a cutaway chassis, etc. on hand and were genuinely excited to show the cars --- as again Nissan didn't show up out my way hopefully they'll extend the same effort when the time comes.
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Re: Will dealers be allowed to gouge us?

Wed May 26, 2010 7:26 am

I'd certainly prefer to test drive on public roads, but for me it won't be a requirement, as long as the automotive press is allowed to.

My wife, on the other hand... I'm still working on getting her to sign off on this. :D
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Re: Will dealers be allowed to gouge us?

Wed May 26, 2010 7:40 am

Yes, my wife is comfortable in her current car, and not really wanting to spend a LOT of money for a somewhat LIMITED replacement, that would require her to learn a new car (her to CHANGE).

So, at this point, I am unsure that even a test ride would make her comfortable, even if the $$ are there, because it (any new car) would be a (shudder) CHANGE for her, which she would likely FEEL is unnecessary (for her).

Even if we cannot get an EV now, I still want to help make the EV-movement a total success.
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Re: Will dealers be allowed to gouge us?

Wed May 26, 2010 8:28 am

daniel wrote:
garygid wrote:In (or near) most of the "first" areas, we should have a chance to see, sit in, and even drive a LEAF before August.

Has Nissan said this?


IIRC, Nissan has said they will get cars so that everyone can test drive before ordering. May be in one of Perry's interview videos ?
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Re: Will dealers be allowed to gouge us?

Wed May 26, 2010 8:36 am

Nissan also said every car would be equipped with a fast charger. :evil:
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Re: Will dealers be allowed to gouge us?

Wed May 26, 2010 8:54 am

Bicster wrote:Nissan also said every car would be equipped with a fast charger. :evil:


Ain' no fat lady singing quite yet, Amigo! :D

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Re: Will dealers be allowed to gouge us?

Wed May 26, 2010 9:01 am

The guys at the Nissan booth following the Tour of California indicated that we would be able to test drive the cars in the fall. They did not have any specific dates, but that there would be cars going out to many of the dealerships to have as test cars.

My guess is that this will happen in late September or October, just after Lance gets his car. This will likely be from the fleet of pre-production cars that they use for testing. Once the testing is complete they will put them out for the dealerships to use a test drive cars, and they just move them around from dealership to dealership, perhaps one week at each one, if they have enough cars.
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Re: Will dealers be allowed to gouge us?

Wed May 26, 2010 9:29 am

I went on the Smart Roadshow (or whatever it was called) in June 2007. We only got to take the car around the block, and the girl I was driving with kept her hand on the handbrake the entire time, like I was some stupid high school kid who couldn't be trusted. :roll: It was still enough time to figure out that, while it was a decent little car, the transmission was complete shite.
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Re: Will dealers be allowed to gouge us?

Wed May 26, 2010 10:25 am

mwalsh wrote:I went on the Smart Roadshow (or whatever it was called) in June 2007. We only got to take the car around the block, and the girl I was driving with kept her hand on the handbrake the entire time, like I was some stupid high school kid who couldn't be trusted. :roll: It was still enough time to figure out that, while it was a decent little car, the transmission was complete shite.


Maybe they learned something from that one ... Chicago was Sept '07 and was nothing like that, smart later provided a software update for the trans that improved the shifts; I still don't like its ride over bumpy roads and long trips but the wife and son still enjoy it and I will drive it to work sometimes. Wife's commute is a short one on smooth roads so the shifter and ride have never been an issue. Smart also had a much more limited event during late spring/ early summer downtown in '07 and that was really a slow crawl (don't remember anyone ready to pull the hand brake though!).
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Re: Will dealers be allowed to gouge us?

Wed May 26, 2010 10:28 am

redLEAF wrote:I still don't like its ride over bumpy roads and long trips


I have no problem with either of those aspects.....coming from a background of classic Mini ownership.
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