chijayhawker wrote:I just had contact with a Nissan dealer near where I live. He started to claim that the Nissan Leaf is going to have an MSRP of over $37,000 becuase of IL emission control rules? Was he correct? I thought the MSRP was supposed to be around $32,000 AND THEN subtract the $7,500 federal rebate (and I believe there to be IL rebate as well, but I'm still checking into this). Can I get some clarification? I'm trying to find a Nissan dealer that will work honestly with me.
Hey, chijayhawker which Chicago Nissan dealer? I'm in the NW 'burbs and I see at least 20 in Chicago Metro and the comment on 'IL emission control rules' sounds quite bogus to me ... for instance, the IL EPA doesn't even test diesel-powered cars (I know, I owned a '98 VW TDI New Bettle it was exempt) and electric vehicles should also be exempt (no tailpipe and no reason for an ODB connector which they use for '96 and newer vehicles now) so what would they even test? As always, sounds like a 'market price adjustment' charge similar to when other new vehicles came out (still remember the $5K over list mark up when the Miata came out in '89/'90).
As always, Nissan can't dictate what a dealer will sell the car for but they can strongly suggest through customer satisfaction surveys, etc. as well as car allocations, etc. that the dealer treats the customer right -- Mercedes did this with the smart franchise and there was no gouging.
If anything, the IL legislature is moving more towards encouraging EV's with the recent bill passed on EV registration costs (only $38 for 2 years) so it furthers the fact that sheds some doubt on what this dealer is telling you ...
EDIT -- OK, I found the specifics on the IL EPA site ... it reads:
Q. What vehicles are subject to vehicle emissions inspection?
A. Generally, most 1996 and newer gasoline-powered passenger vehicles, light and heavy duty trucks and busses are subject to testing after they are four years old.
Diesel powered vehicles, vehicles powered exclusively by electricity
, and certain other vehicles are not required to test
. Check the Exempt Vehicles List for details.
more info at:http://www.epa.state.il.us/air/vim/faq/testing.html#15