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Gonewild
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Re: Interlopers

Sat May 22, 2010 4:06 pm

Let me solve the problem for you. They (Nissan) will not sell you a car until you have the home charger installed. So unless your friend is going to pay to have it installed just to remove it and send it to Iowa. Then there is no problem.
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garygid
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Re: Interlopers

Sat May 22, 2010 5:31 pm

My Prius dealer wanted an extra $2000 for chrome wheels, and said that they could not take them off of any of their cars.

When I pointed to one that was not yet "upgraded" and suggested a wheel swap, they said OK, but that there would then be a $1000 "market adjustment" added on. If I did not like it, I could go elsewhere.

I called around and did find an "MSRP" Prius dealer in San Diego (75 miles away).
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Re: Interlopers

Sat May 22, 2010 5:32 pm

Gonewild wrote:Let me solve the problem for you. They (Nissan) will not sell you a car until you have the home charger installed. So unless your friend is going to pay to have it installed just to remove it and send it to Iowa. Then there is no problem.


Sorry, no. The EVSE is not a prerequisite to buy - it is an optional purchase.

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Re: Interlopers

Sat May 22, 2010 5:49 pm

AndyH wrote:
Gonewild wrote:Let me solve the problem for you. They (Nissan) will not sell you a car until you have the home charger installed. So unless your friend is going to pay to have it installed just to remove it and send it to Iowa. Then there is no problem.


Sorry, no. The EVSE is not a prerequisite to buy - it is an optional purchase.


I do believe on the first role out cars it is? Let me see if I can find it in print.
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Re: Interlopers

Sat May 22, 2010 6:05 pm

For the people accepted into the EVProject's test, it seems that accepting the "free" eTec EVSE is required. But, since the actual study appears to start about mid-2011, I suspect that these participants can take at least several months of 2011 to get their vehicles.

Otherwise, the "Nissan" EVSE (by AeroVironment) appears to be an option.

So, I will just have to wait more to see if I can get a LEAF early enough to qualify for the CA $5000 rebate.
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Re: Interlopers

Sat May 22, 2010 6:19 pm

Well if you do not get a charger before the end of the year the fed rebate is scheduled to end. Then you would have to pay all of the $2000
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Re: Interlopers

Sat May 22, 2010 6:22 pm

I would want the charger I think anyways never know if I would want to top it off say 30 to 60 minutes and go off again.
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Re: Interlopers

Sat May 22, 2010 6:26 pm

Garygid, being selected and chosen as a participant in the "EV Project" will certainly assist you getting your Leaf as early as possible. The original plan was to deploy the 4700 leafs to the areas in the EV Project, and gather that data to assist in evaluation of how the ev's are working and being accepted, and to study charging and usage patterns. The EV Project has a fixed end of study date, they need to meet that schedule.
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Re: Interlopers

Sat May 22, 2010 7:46 pm

Gonewild wrote:I would want the charger I think anyways never know if I would want to top it off say 30 to 60 minutes and go off again.

Many people will want the charging adapter, but not everyone. (Of course everyone needs a charger, but that is built into the car.) My average daily usage will be about 30 miles, which should take less than 8 hours to recharge at 120v. If I should happen to drive 50 or 80 miles one day I'll be able to catch up over the next few nights. On top of that, our house has only 100A service, and it's underground. I haven't asked for estimates, but I'm sure I would end up paying way more than $2200 to get an EVSE. Maybe closer to $5000.
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Re: Interlopers

Sat May 22, 2010 7:57 pm

I had my service entrance update when I got my solar panel installed the 200 amp panel cost about $2,300. I had a 125amp we upped it to 200amp. I hope this will help me get in the EV project. I signed up early on 4/20 and I live in AZ where the EV project company is located. I drive 38 miles one way to work daily. So I have info like I drive allot, its hot, I have a smart phone (iphone), internet and 200amp panel means it is cheap for them to install charger. Those are all the question they asked in the eval so I could have a good shot. I hope.
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