iPlug wrote: edatoakrun wrote:
iPlug wrote:A few observations:
...the here-to-date non-existent $35k MSRP Tesla is a great vehicle...
Maybe you should base your conclusions on reality
, by waiting until that car exists, before you form an opinion?
I prefer to form my opinions on evidence, rather than the opinions of the ignorant.
I'm confused. As you just referenced, I stated the $35k MSRP Tesla does not exist. Why can we not discuss a version of a vehicle that is not yet mass produced but most reasonable people think will be at some point, even if substantially further into the future than many claimed? The 60 kWh Leaf is probably at least a few months away too, but why not talk about it now.
Sure you can't buy it yet, but if you are in the market for a new vehicle in April next year like we are, the 60 kWh Leaf and $35k MSRP Model 3 are important future contenders to ponder now...
And a thread conjecturing
on how the the future "$35k MSRP 60 kWh" LEAF will compare to the "$35k MSRP SR Model 3" might be interesting.
But using the present tense
when describing and reaching conclusions on a vehicle that not only does not exist, but does not even have the specifications released yet, seems premature, to say the least.
iPlug wrote:...Maybe as a kind gesture to the Tesla faithful, you could briefly cross the aisle and say a couple genuinely nice things about the company. There are more than a few. Seems like there is a loss of sense of good will and constructive discussion.
I'd point out that I do not post on Tesla forums, since even though my statements would be equally valid there, it would be bad manners to do so.
Even if your
kids were unambiguously ugly, I wouldn't bring up that subject when invited into your
home for Thanksgiving dinner...
Many TSLA fans don't seem to understand the simple concept of civility when they feel the urge to post on MNL, and almost invariably compound that offensive behavior by resorting to personal attacks, after their own words
reveal them to be not only rude, but foolish as well (see previous thread page).Second
, since it is apparent that TSLA has made great efforts to promote itself, relying on both stooges (paid) and dupes (unpaid) agents as sycophants in various media, including this forum, it hardly seems necessary for me to add to the mountain of pro-TSLA bullshit that has been generated.Finally,
I really can't say much positive about the company, TSLA because over many years, I have watched it fail to achieve its stated goals, and instead devolve into what currently is (IMO) a scam, of its pathetic creditors, equity holders, and car buyers.
I actually hope
that your opinion of TSLA turns out to be more accurate than mine, in the same sense that I hope (and pray fervently)
that the Fox News view
of Donald Trump's character and competence turns out to be more accurate than my own.
But that hope does not change the presently observable facts.