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Right to charge in public lots

Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:24 pm

Does anyone know about charging rights in office buildings? To wit: I work in a building that has several different businesses. One of them is Kaiser, and there are two spots reserved for physicians that has the only two charging plugs in the parking lot we all use and have parking passes for. Can they deny use to other EV owners and just reserve it for physicians? That seems like it would be illegal. And how would we propose to the property managers that the parking lots plugs should be accessible to other users of the building and the lot? I'm not talking about anyone that comes into the parking lot, but we daily users of the lot should have access to the only two L1 chargers available.

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Re: Right to charge in public lots

Tue Nov 07, 2017 11:47 pm

So-called "public parking lots" are generally privately owned. In addition, there is no established legal "right to charge." It's unfortunate, but you are not going to get anywhere assuming that there is such a right.
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Re: Right to charge in public lots

Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:55 am

kentklineman2014 wrote:Does anyone know about charging rights in office buildings? To wit: I work in a building that has several different businesses. One of them is Kaiser, and there are two spots reserved for physicians that has the only two charging plugs in the parking lot we all use and have parking passes for. Can they deny use to other EV owners and just reserve it for physicians? That seems like it would be illegal. And how would we propose to the property managers that the parking lots plugs should be accessible to other users of the building and the lot? I'm not talking about anyone that comes into the parking lot, but we daily users of the lot should have access to the only two L1 chargers available.


When you say "charging plugs" do you mean EVSE, or just plain electrical outlets?
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Re: Right to charge in public lots

Wed Nov 08, 2017 4:02 am

kentklineman2014 wrote:Does anyone know about charging rights in office buildings? To wit: I work in a building that has several different businesses. One of them is Kaiser, and there are two spots reserved for physicians that has the only two charging plugs in the parking lot we all use and have parking passes for. Can they deny use to other EV owners and just reserve it for physicians? That seems like it would be illegal. And how would we propose to the property managers that the parking lots plugs should be accessible to other users of the building and the lot? I'm not talking about anyone that comes into the parking lot, but we daily users of the lot should have access to the only two L1 chargers available.


You have to get permission to charge from the entity that pays the electric bill, and the entity that controls the parking area. Typically, they are both the same entity, usually building management. It may not make sense that the only two EV spaces are reserved for Doctors, unless you are talking about outlets and not actual charging stations, but management has the right to do as they choose with parking, as long as they comply with ADA, OSHA, and any other regulatory bodies that have jurisdiction over them.

There is no 'right to charge' unless signs are posted allowing it, charging stations are installed with spaces marked as such, or written permission is provided to permit it. Many parking facilities do not allow use of any outlets for safety and liability reasons. All you can do is ask the proper people, and hope they will accommodate your needs.
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Re: Right to charge in public lots

Wed Nov 08, 2017 5:43 am

EASY WAY...... Empty space? Park in the space and Plug the charger cable into your electric car. Then leave your info on the windshield.

If they call you, say I'm sorry and get the specific rules of the charging station then. They can't burn you at the stake as a trespasser, as you work there, and have an electric car that uses that charging station.

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Re: Right to charge in public lots

Wed Nov 08, 2017 6:56 am

Probably the docs had the pull to request that they be installed in the doctor's parking area. Even possible that they paid for them, but probably not. If it were me, I wouldn't contact building management directly, I would go through my own company's hierarchy.
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Re: Right to charge in public lots

Wed Nov 08, 2017 7:47 am

How would you park in the MD spot without getting a ticket or just towed creating a big bill? That is larger issue, even if someone said you could use the charger.
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Re: Right to charge in public lots

Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:08 pm

kentklineman2014 wrote:Does anyone know about charging rights in office buildings? To wit: I work in a building that has several different businesses. One of them is Kaiser, and there are two spots reserved for physicians that has the only two charging plugs in the parking lot we all use and have parking passes for. Can they deny use to other EV owners and just reserve it for physicians? That seems like it would be illegal. And how would we propose to the property managers that the parking lots plugs should be accessible to other users of the building and the lot? I'm not talking about anyone that comes into the parking lot, but we daily users of the lot should have access to the only two L1 chargers available.


Judging by the variety of replies, it seems there's still insufficient info. A picture saves a thousand questions.
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Re: Right to charge in public lots

Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:49 pm

Become a doctor and get a job at Kaiser. Problem solved.

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Re: Right to charge in public lots

Wed Nov 08, 2017 3:38 pm

I'm guessing they are simply 120v outlets, meant for an engine block heater. At a hospital I worked at all the Dr's spots near the building had them. They are also frequently at Dr's spots at clinics. Hospitals tend to have security patrol Dr's lots, clinics probably not so much, well I guess unless it's in a city or parking is in short supply.
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