baustin
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Re: Committed LEAF 2018 Buyer: Raise Your Hand

Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:10 am

I like my Leaf, and would really like one with more range. But, I bought a 96/96 $0 deductible extended warranty right before the original warranty expired, and I just got a new traction battery under warranty. So, unless something major happens, I'm off the market for three more years, even though I would really like a new one. I used to get a new vehicle every two to three years, but I have changed with age. The last new vehicle I bought is now twelve years old with 135k miles, and I don't want to give it up. I bought my Leaf used, almost three years ago, and plan on keeping it another three years (or longer, depending on the market when the extended warranty expires).
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: Committed LEAF 2018 Buyer: Raise Your Hand

Mon Dec 11, 2017 9:33 am

Evoforce wrote:
cwerdna wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:Maybe we should do a post on who is really secretly waiting for the 60 kwh LEAF and when it might be available. I was told Early 2019 but have read several things that seem to imply anywhere from late Summer to mid Fall 2018?

The Nissan corporate marketing guy who presented to the SF BayLeafs group this past Septebmer was only willing to say model year 2019 and not be more specific. That leaves a lot of wiggle room.

(Side note: https://www.autoblog.com/2012/12/21/why ... cant-driv/ is probably one of the craziest way too early for model year cases I've heard of.)


Nissan Leaf has not (at least not in recent memory) been released in the fall like many vehicles, but instead seems to be released after the first of the year.


Nissan DOES release in mid year if they feel its vital. When was 2015 Lizard MY released?
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Re: Committed LEAF 2018 Buyer: Raise Your Hand

Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:18 am

This whole "Will you buy a 2018 Leaf" thing reminds me of the same thing that happened when computers were new....

There came a point when computers were getting more powerful so fast that people would not "trade up" to a new computer, but only buy a new one when they HAD to... Personally, if there are rumblings of a 60KWH Leaf in late 2018, then I would wait to get the best bang for the Kilowatt.

Realistically, At this point for Leaf "owners", it does not pay to buy another Leaf when their current one is useful. Of course, "Leasers" always like to talk about their next latest and greatest cars. They are also the ones who like to do pro and con lists (as if buying another car is as simple as just picking the one that has longest pro list).

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Re: Committed LEAF 2018 Buyer: Raise Your Hand

Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:22 am

I have to have a new (to me) car in the next six months. My current LEAF is being passed on to my daughter as she begins driving. The new LEAF is at the top of the list, but I am waiting to see what options are available. An off-lease 1st gen is also a possibility and may be the most economically sound choice. The fate of the tax credit will also play a role. *If* the new LEAF were available right now today and I knew the tax credit was not going to survive, I would be all over it.

I don't feel the same way about the Bolt because the most compelling feature of the new LEAF is the tech (Pro-Pilot, E-pedal) and the added comfort. Take away that, and I would just as soon save my money and get a used 1st gen. Clearly, range is not a priority for me.
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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: Committed LEAF 2018 Buyer: Raise Your Hand

Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:46 am

Joe6pack wrote:I have to have a new (to me) car in the next six months. My current LEAF is being passed on to my daughter as she begins driving. The new LEAF is at the top of the list, but I am waiting to see what options are available. An off-lease 1st gen is also a possibility and may be the most economically sound choice. The fate of the tax credit will also play a role. *If* the new LEAF were available right now today and I knew the tax credit was not going to survive, I would be all over it.

I don't feel the same way about the Bolt because the most compelling feature of the new LEAF is the tech (Pro-Pilot, E-pedal) and the added comfort. Take away that, and I would just as soon save my money and get a used 1st gen. Clearly, range is not a priority for me.


Full details on pricing and options have been published. What are you looking for in the 2018?
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Re: Committed LEAF 2018 Buyer: Raise Your Hand

Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:19 pm

The actual price isn't static. Buying the first is often the most expensive.

The quality isn't static. Waiting six months to a year will allow issues to be corrected.

Waiting through the first summer will reduce battery life worries. Two years even more so.

My need for the car isn't static. Getting a larger battery may be necessary. Or I might need to defer expenses. Or my car might get totaled.

The competition isn't static. While the 2018 Leaf looks like the best choice for me as of today, the future might change that.

Committed? Not till I hand over a check.
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Joe6pack
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Re: Committed LEAF 2018 Buyer: Raise Your Hand

Mon Dec 11, 2017 12:47 pm

Sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant other car options. With the new LEAF not available before the end of the year and the tax credit in all likelihood gone, I will explore other car options next year. Also, Georgia's lease law is changing for the better after January 1.
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Evoforce
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Re: Committed LEAF 2018 Buyer: Raise Your Hand

Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:09 am

baustin wrote:I like my Leaf, and would really like one with more range. But, I bought a 96/96 $0 deductible extended warranty right before the original warranty expired, and I just got a new traction battery under warranty. So, unless something major happens, I'm off the market for three more years, even though I would really like a new one. I used to get a new vehicle every two to three years, but I have changed with age. The last new vehicle I bought is now twelve years old with 135k miles, and I don't want to give it up. I bought my Leaf used, almost three years ago, and plan on keeping it another three years (or longer, depending on the market when the extended warranty expires).


Your new battery warranty is only 12 months or can be longer only if the original warranty would still have been in force.
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baustin
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Re: Committed LEAF 2018 Buyer: Raise Your Hand

Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:12 am

Evoforce wrote:
baustin wrote:I like my Leaf, and would really like one with more range. But, I bought a 96/96 $0 deductible extended warranty right before the original warranty expired, and I just got a new traction battery under warranty. So, unless something major happens, I'm off the market for three more years, even though I would really like a new one. I used to get a new vehicle every two to three years, but I have changed with age. The last new vehicle I bought is now twelve years old with 135k miles, and I don't want to give it up. I bought my Leaf used, almost three years ago, and plan on keeping it another three years (or longer, depending on the market when the extended warranty expires).


Your new battery warranty is only 12 months or can be longer only if the original warranty would still have been in force.


I'm not talking about the battery warranty. That is separate from the warranty on the vehicle.
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EVsRock
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Re: Committed LEAF 2018 Buyer: Raise Your Hand

Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:28 am

Hi.

I haven’t seen any recent comment about this, but is it feasible that Nissan could have taken the “oversize the battery and hide the reserve” approach with this model revision and be able to reliably “show” 140+ miles of range in most conditions.

Not that it really changes most previous buyer perceptions, but for new customers this could be the classic “under promise / over delivery” for their battery longevity reputation.

As for me. If the oversized battery turned out to be true, I may become a returning customer.

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