NeilBlanchard
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Joined: Sat Oct 11, 2014 5:02 pm
Delivery Date: 14 Oct 2014
Leaf Number: 306278

Re: Cold weather longer charge times

Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:15 am

The battery has to be warmed during charging, when the air temperature is cooler. This uses more energy, the cooler it is outside.

johnlocke
Posts: 278
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Delivery Date: 14 Dec 2015
Leaf Number: 300582

Re: Cold weather longer charge times

Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:29 pm

cwerdna wrote:
johnlocke wrote:Even with CARE and Medical rates you are talking 15 cents a KWH.

OP might be unfamiliar with CARE (which apparently stands for California Alternate Rates for Energy). It's CA specific and for low income households/people only: http://www.cpuc.ca.gov/General.aspx?id=976.

CARE rates apply to households with either low income or a member who is disabled. We qualify because my son is permanently disabled. In addition we qualify for Medical rates (larger baseline allowance and capped tier 2 rate). Even with those discounts, my rate is $.15/KWH. I have 16 KW of PV that produces 26,000 KWH annually. That gets me to essentially 0 consumption from SDG&E. I use a lot of power because I live on a 5 acre ranch where there aren't any sewers or city water. The house is all electric at this point except for the propane stove. I've reduced my propane and electric bills by $5000-$6000 annually. And yes, going solar was cheaper than paying SDG&E and Amerigas. Adding the Leaf to replace my Maxima saved me $3000-$4000 in gas annually depending on the price of gas. $8k-$10k/yr in savings pays for a lot of PV.
2016 SV, New battery at 45K mi.
Jamul, CA
San Diego East County

jake14mw
Posts: 170
Joined: Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:53 pm
Delivery Date: 13 Nov 2017
Location: Connecticut, USA

Re: Cold weather longer charge times

Thu Jan 04, 2018 9:12 am

I am in CT, and have noticed SIGNIFICANTLY longer charging times during the recent cold snap where daytime highs have been in the teens and twenties and overnight lows around zero. Haven't measured them yet. This is with Level 1 charging.

LeftieBiker
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Delivery Date: 31 May 2013
Location: Upstate New York, US

Re: Cold weather longer charge times

Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:35 pm

I tried to opportunity charge at an L-2 station at a Chili's last night. Slow as molasses! It's frigid here too, but even with temps up in the teens it was only about 1/2 as fast as usual. I think I gained 5% charge in 20 minutes, when normally it would be 10%.
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2009 Vectrix VX-1 W/18 Leaf modules, & 3 EZIP E-bicycles.
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jjeff
Posts: 1699
Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:10 am
Delivery Date: 13 Jul 2014
Leaf Number: 422121
Location: MSP MN

Re: Cold weather longer charge times

Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:09 pm

Yep, I figure ~30%/hr on a 30a circuit :)
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2013 S w/QC purchased new
Juicebox Premium 60a L1/L2 EVSE, Ebusbar 16a L1/L2 EVSE
'12 EVSEupgrade'd 20a L1/L2 EVSE, '13 EVSEupgrade'd adjustable 6-20a L2, 6-13a L1 EVSE
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