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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Tue Mar 06, 2018 6:48 am

Yes for a Leaf-centric Forum, wondering why all this talk about Tesla! If you want to talk Tesla, there are many good forums to do this on.

No need to go on-and-on about the validity of Tesla and how good they are. People have their own views but this forum IMO is not the place to debate Tesla vs. Nissan or anyone else.

I look to this forum as a source of info and shared experiences for the Nissan Leaf, not Tesla Model 3.
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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Tue Mar 06, 2018 7:12 am

+1

Well said Kennethbokor...

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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Tue Mar 06, 2018 9:35 am

I am motivated to post Tesla information by people who post Tesla FUD or troll Tesla.

E.g.,
Unfortunately, I think that Tesla will be the next installment of the Avanti, DeLorean, and Bricklin club.


Sharing of LEAF expertise is a wonderful thing.
An echo chamber of FUD and trolling other EVs is apparently the support some owners want, but they will not get it from me.
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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Tue Mar 06, 2018 1:12 pm

kennethbokor wrote:Yes for a Leaf-centric Forum, wondering why all this talk about Tesla! If you want to talk Tesla, there are many good forums to do this on.

No need to go on-and-on about the validity of Tesla and how good they are. People have their own views but this forum IMO is not the place to debate Tesla vs. Nissan or anyone else.

I look to this forum as a source of info and shared experiences for the Nissan Leaf, not Tesla Model 3.


This thread was a great idea, but it went off the rails at the very first post.

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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:24 am

scottf200 wrote:
SageBrush wrote:I started this table in another thread but I think it has reached a point where I can bring it out to full light. As more information or errors emerge I'll update this OP. Please refrain from quoting the table since I have no way of updating the table in a quote.

Last updated: 1/25/2018, 20:34 MST
Change log:
1/25: Auto Emergency braking added to 'S' and 'SV' models

Nice effort! Thoughts and suggestion on AEB/Auto Emergency Braking is to break this into two line/entries. My recently research into the Volt and Bolt is that they only do up to 37 MPH (Low Speed Auto Emerg Braking) but supposedly the Volt with ACC/Adaptive Cruise Control will do High-Speed AEB. Bolt does not offer ACC that I know of. That seems to be a secret tho as I (nor others in the know) can locate any doc on that. Still roads around Chicagoland even in the suburbs are 40 and 45 MPH so the up to 37 MPH in the Volt/Bolt is not great.

The Model 3 currently just has Slow-Speed Auto Emerg Braking to 50 MPH. Perhaps just like the X/S they are validating the High-Speed Emerg Braking (up to 85 or 90 MPH).

Low-Speed Auto Emerg Braking
High-Speed Auto Emerg Braking

[update]2018 LEAF manual clarify that the AEB is Low-Speed (up to 50 mph -- still better than Bolt and matches Model 3 so far) states:
The radar sensor has some performance limitations. If a stationary vehicle is in the vehicles’s path, the AEB system will not function when the vehicle is driven at speeds over approximately 50 mph (80 km/h).
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TM3 has High-Speed Auto Emerg Braking now.
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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:16 am

kennethbokor wrote:Yes for a Leaf-centric Forum, wondering why all this talk about Tesla! If you want to talk Tesla, there are many good forums to do this on.

No need to go on-and-on about the validity of Tesla and how good they are. People have their own views but this forum IMO is not the place to debate Tesla vs. Nissan or anyone else.

I look to this forum as a source of info and shared experiences for the Nissan Leaf, not Tesla Model 3.



I guess we should remove all the other non-Nissan topics as well which would reduce the size of the forum down about 80%.

Most non LEAF posts are fueled buy a few people that search the internet posting Tesla FUD on MNL creating many more responses. There is every reason to compare EVs here but the constant fear mongering and trolling of a couple people on a few threads adds far to much garbage to the discussion. MNL is full of OT threads which are larger and more numerous than any EV forum I have ever visited. One can simply stay in the Nissan topic threads if they don't like the subject matter.


Speaking of comparisons the chart covers generic features and does not compare the actual hardware and software differences of the two cars or the safety of the vehicles crash ratings yet. I assume that is buying decision for many people.
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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:38 am

scottf200 wrote:
scottf200 wrote:TM3 has High-Speed Auto Emerg Braking now.

Noted -- thanks
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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:36 am

Detailed comparison table in this article.
compare-model-3-nissan-leaf
http://www.xautoworld.com/tesla/compare ... ssan-leaf/

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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:19 am

Fanciful comparison of the LEAF you can buy today to TWO presently non-existent model 3s:

Standard: $35,000

Long Range: $44,000

scottf200 wrote:Detailed comparison table in this article.
compare-model-3-nissan-leaf
http://www.xautoworld.com/tesla/compare ... ssan-leaf/
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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Wed Mar 21, 2018 7:48 am

edatoakrun wrote:Fanciful comparison of the LEAF you can buy today to TWO presently non-existent model 3s:

Standard: $35,000

Long Range: $44,000

scottf200 wrote:Detailed comparison table in this article.
compare-model-3-nissan-leaf
http://www.xautoworld.com/tesla/compare ... ssan-leaf/



You don't quit do you. Why don't you go back to throwing darts at pictures of Teslas.
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