armmynissanleaf wrote:I think the biggest comparison point is this. Leaf is available now, Model 3 is not (you have to stand in a long line).
Therefore, current Leaf is a lot of advantages against Model 3 even if the Leaf gets fewer miles per charge.
Advantages? does the wait for a new Model 3 adequately offset the Leaf's notorious capacity loss?
Leaf proves one thing - the more modules you tightly pack together (20kW, 30kW, 40kW) the faster the pack cooks, & thus, the faster range decreases. https://www.greencarreports.com/news/11 ... cars-study
That's an advantage? ....
So, to offset crappy historical range degradation - what has Nissan done to 40kWh cars? They throttle CHAdeMO's typical/paltry charge speed from 40kW down to ~20kW's.
OTOH, the Model 3 can suck down over 116kW's - consistently - which will give you 200 miles in just 30 minutes. True X-country capability.
AND - Tesla has true infrastructure .... not like one-zees / two-zees CHAdeMO's that may or may not be working when you arrive, or they're already in use, or ICE'd.
There are Teslas on the road now that have traveled 1/4 - 1/3 of a MILLION miles - losing just 10% capacity on average. Ever keep ANY car for over 250K - 300K miles?
So - what are those advantages again? Is a car that you can get 'now' - albeit proven to cook itself - really an advantage?
At 80K miles. Our Gid meter indicates we're about to loose bar 5. Most of us early Leafers have dumped their 2011 turd-mobiles. Not us ... we won't bother getting a new $5K pack, because the, all we'd have at bezr, is a $4Kcar. NOBODY baby's their Leaf's charging like we've done. Yet here we are. Go Nissan