SageBrush wrote:Good luck with your '18 LEAF. I hope I am wrong about its battery longevity
If you decide you want to have a discussion about these two EVs and not just attack people who like the Leaf or lease vehicles, let us know.
I looked into the battery stuff and it seems like the complaints are overblown. The battery won't last as long as a Tesla's (their battery chemistry is fascinating), but it's not the disaster that people online seem to think. If anyone is interested, I'll try to find a link to a study I read about Leaf battery longevity.
The issue is overblown because we know about a few dozen cars that represent a small number of LEAFs out there. No doubt there are ones we don't know about simply due to the large % the 12th bar represents and the fact that most don't need most of the range the LEAF offers on a regular basis so they simply are not aware enough to know they "should" be complaining.
But there IS an issue.
1) Nissan has failed to provide the uninformed driver the tools for proper BMS
2) We should have had 90% (or something less than full) as a DEFAULT charging option. Full charges along with the disclaimer reminders for those who need it and despite what we think, that is rare
3) Essentially part two of the above; DoD was too severe. We don't actually have a 30 kwh pack. In reality the jump was barely 5 kwh from the slightly larger than 24 kwh pack to the barely over 29½ kwh pack.
4) We can blame climate and it does play a role but not the primary role. Sadly, the primary role in degradation is human intervention. My dearly departed LEAF exhibited acceptable degradation (1-2 % per 10,000 miles) in the same region where other LEAFs had 3-5X the rate of degradation. I was well on my way to eliminating a lot of the suspects in the degradation game. There is huge benefits to living in the middle of the pack. That is inconvenient for sure, but I drove over 26,000 miles in the first year doing exactly that including a period of over 7 weeks where I NEVER charged to full on L2 one single time. It was during the hottest part of Summer when the major components of degradation were at their peak; High SOC, time and heat.
So my choices as I see it;
*Pay for a manufacturers well managed BMS with custom charging options based on the current need and a little more range. Estimated cost; $10,000+
*Get a LEAF with less range, less convenient charging (although the inconvenience isn't that bad in my area) more tech for MUCH less money and manually handle the BMS chores myself since there is no help coming from Nissan.
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. 29,413 miles. 2018 S40; 15,000 miles, 478 GIDs, 37.0 kwh 109.81 Ahr , SOH 94.61, Hx 120.15
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