SageBrush
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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:23 am

derkraut wrote:I never go more than 30 miles from home with the Leaf anymore---do all my charging in the garage at home at night on the timer. For longer trips, it's the Prius. It is what it is, I guess.

Yup.

The only difference in my household is the Tesla is probably replacing the Prius (Prime)
I'm quite happy with our LEAF for local duties.
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado
3/2018: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
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SageBrush
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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Fri Jun 08, 2018 9:28 am

iPlug wrote:do you have your Tesla? If so, congrats!

Thanks!
I pick it up Tuesday. Road trip same day :-)
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado
3/2018: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
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2018 Tesla Model 3 LR, Delivered 6/2018

finman100
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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Fri Jun 08, 2018 10:28 am

fair enough. Prius and Amtrak it is.
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JMun
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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Fri Jun 08, 2018 12:31 pm

derkraut wrote:
I never go more than 30 miles from home with the Leaf anymore---do all my charging in the garage at home at night on the timer. For longer trips, it's the Prius. It is what it is, I guess.


I hope you’re talking the older Nissan Leaf. I routinely drive my 2018 leaf 50 miles one way on my daily commute and have driven it 80 miles one way multiple times with no issues other than making sure there’s a charging station to use while I go about my day.

Back to the model 3:

Odds are if a person isn’t on the reservation list by now then they could probably get the 60kwh 2019 Nissan Leaf before they can get their hands on a model 3. That version of the leaf will probably still be available with the tax credits but the model 3 tax credits will probably have run out.
The 60kwh version of the leaf should be competitive with the model 3 in every way except for as a status symbol and maybe the model 3 will be more “luxurious”.

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Fri Jun 08, 2018 2:04 pm

finman100 wrote:Just how is that Nissan Fast Charge network coming along? Really?

and the battery degradation lawsuits? yeah, thought so.


So over it. ONE company is doing everything they can to bring about sustainable transport. The others? Just falling further behind the EV curve.

Oh well.

Carry on with your FUD. it's pretty entertaining.


On average EA is installing one chademo for each 4 - 5 CCS plugs so its coming along... But the real question becomes are the new stations compatible with the 2018 LEAF because most of the AV DCFCs along with all the Eaton L2s stations are not.
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles.2016 S30 deceased. 29,413 miles. 2018 S40; 5775 miles, 488 GIDs, 38 kwh 113.37 Ahr available, SOH 98.21, Hx 115.75
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SageBrush
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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:15 pm

JMun wrote:Odds are if a person isn’t on the reservation list by now then they could probably get the 60kwh 2019 Nissan Leaf before they can get their hands on a model 3.

This is not even close to correct for the US
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado
3/2018: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
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SageBrush
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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:17 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:On average EA is installing one chademo for each 4 - 5 CCS plugs so its coming along... But the real question becomes are the new stations compatible with the 2018 LEAF because most of the AV DCFCs along with all the Eaton L2s stations are not.

Oops.

Small loss so far though, since the EA roll-out is sloooooow
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado
3/2018: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
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2018 Tesla Model 3 LR, Delivered 6/2018

DaveinOlyWA
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Location: Olympia, WA
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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:34 am

SageBrush wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote:On average EA is installing one chademo for each 4 - 5 CCS plugs so its coming along... But the real question becomes are the new stations compatible with the 2018 LEAF because most of the AV DCFCs along with all the Eaton L2s stations are not.

Oops.

Small loss so far though, since the EA roll-out is sloooooow


I don't know about slow but its obvious that Fly over country was passed over again.
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edatoakrun
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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:54 am

SageBrush wrote:... the Tesla is probably replacing the Prius (Prime)...

And so, honest Elon upsells another sucker from this thread topic's long-promised-and-non-existent ~$35 k Tesla Model 3 SR to another vehicle that costs...how much, in reality?

SageBrush wrote:...I'm quite happy with our LEAF for local duties.

Smart move.

That way, you'll still have something to drive, during your frequent long periods of waiting for your model 3 to get back from the shop...
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iPlug
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Re: 2018 LEAF Vs Tesla Model 3 SR: A Comparison Table for the USA

Sat Jun 09, 2018 9:56 am

JMun wrote:Back to the model 3:

Odds are if a person isn’t on the reservation list by now then they could probably get the 60kwh 2019 Nissan Leaf before they can get their hands on a model 3. That version of the leaf will probably still be available with the tax credits but the model 3 tax credits will probably have run out.
The 60kwh version of the leaf should be competitive with the model 3 in every way except for as a status symbol and maybe the model 3 will be more “luxurious”.

Perhaps you mean “before they can get their hands on a model 3 SR”? If you choose an LR and perhaps add on additional options you can likely get a model 3 sooner.
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