sonic1
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OBD2 Bluetooth and 2017 Leaf

Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:05 pm

Last summer I purchased for my wife a 2017 Leaf. I wanted to use Leaf Spy to keep on eye on the battery condition. I looked at the Wiki for usable adapters, but found all of them listed are not available. I did try 3 different ones, and none of them worked. They are:
BAFX Products 34t5 Bluetooth OBDII Scan Tool for Android
2015 Mini ELM327 OBD2 II Bluetooth Car Auto Diagnostic Interface Scanner
ANCEL V1.5 BT

With each one, I connect to the dongle via bluetooth, but I get read errors when it tries to connect to the Leaf. Today I searched again on Ebay for another dongle, and found that Ebay has added a compatibility tool. I searched for OBD2 bluetooth Nissan Leaf and got many results. I tried the tool and each time it says that it works with the 2015 Leaf, but not with the 2017 Leaf. Has anyone used Leaf Spy with a 2017 Leaf, and if so, which adapter did you use? Also, does anyone know why adapters would be compatible with the 2015 and not the 2017?

Thanks.

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Re: OBD2 Bluetooth and 2017 Leaf

Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:56 pm

Don't know but I found this free Android app just today to provide a report of all the AT commands and versions supported by a given ELM327.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... identifier

A report I ran on a new one I bought that is supposed to handle high speeds (from some Tesla app builder sources). The app above just test for compatibility not speed tho. "KO" below means not supported as I understand it.

Code: Select all

Scan date=2018-01-26 14:34:59
Device name=OBDLink LX
Device mac=##:##:##:##:##:##
Device Version (Declared)=ELM327 v1.3a


Command   Ver   Rslt
AT@1      1.0   OK
ATSPA6   1.0   OK
ATTPA6   1.0   OK
ATTP6      1.0   OK
ATSP00   1.3   OK
ATSP6      1.0   OK
ATAL      1.0   OK
ATNL      1.0   OK
ATAMC      2.0   KO
ATAMT20   2.0   KO
ATRA70   1.3   OK
ATSR70   1.2   OK
ATAR      1.2   OK
ATAT0      1.2   OK
ATAT2      1.2   OK
ATAT1      1.2   OK
ATBD      1.0   OK
ATBRT0F   1.2   OK
ATCAF0   1.0   OK
ATCAF1   1.0   OK
ATCEA04   1.4   OK
ATCERF1   2.2   KO
ATCEA      1.4   OK
ATCF00000111 1.0   OK
ATCF111   1.0   OK
ATCFC0   1.0   OK
ATCFC1   1.0   OK
ATCM00000111 1.0   OK
ATCM111   1.0   OK
ATCP18   1.0   OK
ATCRA7C0   1.3   OK
ATCRA000007C0 1.3   OK
ATCRA      1.4b   OK
ATCS      1.0   OK
ATCSM0   1.4b   OK
ATCSM1   1.4b   OK
ATCTM5   2.1   KO
ATCTM1   2.1   KO
ATCV0000   1.4   OK
ATD1      1.3   OK
ATD0      1.3   OK
ATDP      1.0   OK
ATDPN      1.0   OK
ATE0      1.0   OK
ATE1      1.0   OK
ATFCSD0430FF00 1.1 OK
ATFCSH000007B0 1.1 OK
ATFCSH7B0   1.1   OK
ATFCSM0   1.1   OK
ATFE      1.3a   OK
ATH0      1.0   OK
ATH1      1.0   OK
ATI      1.0   OK
ATIB10   1.0   OK
ATIB12   2.2   KO
ATIB15   2.2   KO
ATIB48   1.4   OK
ATIB96   1.0   OK
ATIFRS   1.2   OK
ATIFRH   1.2   OK
ATIFR0   1.2   OK
ATIFR2   1.2   OK
ATIFR1   1.2   OK
ATIFR6   2.2   KO
ATIFR5   2.2   KO
ATIFR4   2.2   KO
ATIGN      1.4   OK
ATIIA7A   1.2   OK
ATJS      1.3   OK
ATJE      1.3   OK
ATJHF0   1.4b   OK
ATJHF1   1.4b   OK
ATJTM5   1.4b   OK
ATJTM1   1.4b   OK
ATKW      1.3   OK
ATKW0      1.2   OK
ATKW1      1.2   OK
ATL0      1.0   OK
ATL1      1.0   OK
ATM1      1.0   OK
ATM0      1.0   OK
ATPPFFON   1.1   OK
ATPPFFOFF   1.1   OK
ATR0      1.0   OK
ATR1      1.0   OK
ATRV      1.0   OK
ATS0      1.3   OK
ATS1      1.3   OK
ATSDFF   1.4   OK
ATRD      1.4   OK
ATSH000007E0 2.0   KO
ATSHA848F1   1.0   OK
ATSH7B0   1.0   OK
ATST32   1.0   OK
ATSWFF   1.0   OK
ATTAF9   1.4   OK
ATV1      1.3   OK
ATV0      1.3   OK
ATWMC133F13E 1.0   OK
ATPC      1.0   OK
ATWS      1.0   OK
ATD      1.0   OK
ATZ      1.0   OK
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Re: OBD2 Bluetooth and 2017 Leaf

Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:17 pm

sonic1 wrote:found that Ebay has added a compatibility tool. I searched for OBD2 bluetooth Nissan Leaf and got many results.

I wouldn't bother w/such a tool. Who knows how they determine "compatible" or not? Don't waste any more time on eBay.

Assuming you're using Android, you could try these:
viewtopic.php?t=12785
viewtopic.php?t=22368
http://www.electricvehiclewiki.com/?tit ... th_Scanner
viewtopic.php?f=44&t=23776&p=491252&hilit=kiwi#p491252

Do NOT get the KW-902: viewtopic.php?f=44&t=23776.

As I posted at viewtopic.php?p=506937#p506937, the two I pointed to there work for me.
Last edited by cwerdna on Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:22 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: OBD2 Bluetooth and 2017 Leaf

Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:06 am

When I purchased mine three years ago, I found that it had to be a version 1.5 to work with Leaf Spy. The first one I bought was a version 2.1 and it would not work. This one should work: https://smile.amazon.com/UCar-Bluetooth ... rds=elm327
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scottf200
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Re: OBD2 Bluetooth and 2017 Leaf

Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:21 am

baustin wrote:When I purchased mine three years ago, I found that it had to be a version 1.5 to work with Leaf Spy. The first one I bought was a version 2.1 and it would not work. This one should work: https://smile.amazon.com/UCar-Bluetooth ... rds=elm327
I found it interesting that the Leaf Spy description does not mention a minimum ELM327 version. Also in that test app I mention above 1.5 is not listed for any of the AT commands. They jump from 1.4b to 2.0.
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sonic1
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Re: OBD2 Bluetooth and 2017 Leaf

Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:59 pm

Scott, thanks for the link. That will at least let me know what protocols work with the adapter. I returned all the adapters I had, so I am not out $ but I did spend too much time tying to get them working.
The Wiki data is out of date, nothing there is available now.
I new about the V1.5 issues, and bought units that claimed to be V1.5.
I also purchased a unit off of Amazon that claimed to work with the car, but didn't.
Right now, I am not in a big hurry to solve this, but it would be nice to get something working at some point.

cwerdna
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Re: OBD2 Bluetooth and 2017 Leaf

Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:11 pm

scottf200 wrote:
baustin wrote:When I purchased mine three years ago, I found that it had to be a version 1.5 to work with Leaf Spy. The first one I bought was a version 2.1 and it would not work. This one should work: https://smile.amazon.com/UCar-Bluetooth ... rds=elm327
I found it interesting that the Leaf Spy description does not mention a minimum ELM327 version. Also in that test app I mention above 1.5 is not listed for any of the AT commands. They jump from 1.4b to 2.0.

Forget the mention of version numbers or a minimum. Getting a "2.1" device might == doesn't work.

Please see viewtopic.php?f=44&t=14284&hilit=android&start=150#p395284.

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Re: OBD2 Bluetooth and 2017 Leaf

Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:14 pm

sonic1 wrote:Scott, thanks for the link. That will at least let me know what protocols work with the adapter. I returned all the adapters I had, so I am not out $ but I did spend too much time tying to get them working.
The Wiki data is out of date, nothing there is available now.
I new about the V1.5 issues, and bought units that claimed to be V1.5.
I also purchased a unit off of Amazon that claimed to work with the car, but didn't.

I found that Amazon does carry a couple listed in the wiki.

As for the bolded part, don't bother with that. Who knows what their definition is of "working" with a Leaf? It doesn't matter. It needs to work with Leaf Spy, not some arbitrary definition of "working".

Again, you're probably best off consulting the threads I pointed to and seeing what folks recently bought that has been confirmed to work. Order a couple different models that people recently said worked for them. Recent is likely important as who knows what those manufacturers change from time to time? What they produced at one point in time might work with Leaf Spy but later revisions may not.

When I was shopping for a used Leaf, I was in a time crunch (lease on my former leased '13 was ending soon), so I ordered two different ones (I already listed them), hoping at least 1 would work. First one I tried worked right off the bat. I didn't try the second one until MANY months later. It also worked fine and I'm still using that one, to this day.

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Re: OBD2 Bluetooth and 2017 Leaf

Wed Jan 31, 2018 6:28 pm

sonic1 wrote:Last summer I purchased for my wife a 2017 Leaf. I wanted to use Leaf Spy to keep on eye on the battery condition. I looked at the Wiki for usable adapters, but found all of them listed are not available. I did try 3 different ones, and none of them worked. They are:
BAFX Products 34t5 Bluetooth OBDII Scan Tool for Android
2015 Mini ELM327 OBD2 II Bluetooth Car Auto Diagnostic Interface Scanner
ANCEL V1.5 BT

With each one, I connect to the dongle via bluetooth, but I get read errors when it tries to connect to the Leaf. Today I searched again on Ebay for another dongle, and found that Ebay has added a compatibility tool. I searched for OBD2 bluetooth Nissan Leaf and got many results. I tried the tool and each time it says that it works with the 2015 Leaf, but not with the 2017 Leaf. Has anyone used Leaf Spy with a 2017 Leaf, and if so, which adapter did you use? Also, does anyone know why adapters would be compatible with the 2015 and not the 2017?

Thanks.


I've used an LELink OBD2 dongle (from Amazon at "https://www.amazon.com/LELink-Bluetooth-Energy-OBD-II-Diagnostic/dp/B00QJRYMFC") on two 2015 LEAF SVs, a 2015 S (on dealers' lots) and a 2017 SL (at a Drive Electric event), with LeafSpy Pro on an iPhone 7. I recall LeafSpy showed about 80 AHrs for the 2017 SL, so the dongle was apparently working.

On the 2015 S, I had a similar problem to what you report. The dongle was connected to the LEAF (as shown by its LED being on) and LeafSpy was running on the phone, but they would talk to each other over Bluetooth LE despite restarting the app, turning the LEAF on and off, and replugging the dongle. The salesman suggested rebooting my phone, and after I did that, it worked. It shouldn't ever be necessary to power cycle the phone, except sometimes it is.
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Re: OBD2 Bluetooth and 2017 Leaf

Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:47 am

I found a paper online on data extraction from the OBD port on the leaf. It states that the Leaf protocol is "mode 6 (ISO-15765-4 CAN". I checked several of the OBD dongles on Amazon and found that all of them do not support this protocol. I just ordered an adapter that supports the protocol, and a splitter cable for OBD connectors. When I get and test the adapter I will report the results. I thank everyone for their input.

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