skamithi
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2018 Nissan Leaf does not charge at Eaton POW-R-STATION

Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:12 am

Owned a 2018 nissan leaf now for 1 month. Had problems with it from day 2. First the car whistled close to the driver area when you go 50mph and turn off the AC. Well the AC masked some of the sound. It took Nissan 3 weeks to fix it. Apparently a manufacturing defect and they sealed the hole somewhere in the guts of the car.

Thought all my troubles were over when I realized that any Eaton POW-R-Station I use do charge the car. It would produce the red circle with exclamation mark icon on the Eaton L2 charger. So i investigated the issue further. I live in the Raleigh Durham (RTP) area. The following chargers did not work for me.

Durham Southwest library
Chapel hill franklin street
Pittsboro Library
Morrisville City Hall.

All Eaton POW-R-STATION chargers. Dealership service manager did confirm that new 2018 nissan leafs on the lot have the same issue. Service manager said Nissan engineering
recommends the charger be upgraded. but seriously when are you gonna get 4 different cities to do this because of a particular year of one particular brand. I responded by saying their
engineering should workaround the problem like all the EV car brands. I spoke to tesla , BMW and a 2016 nissan leaf owner and all reported no problems using these Eaton chargers.

Raleigh / Durham EVs considering a 2018 nissan leaf .. BEWARE! you can't charge this car anywhere!

Not sure if nissan will patch up their software any time soon. Maybe these EATON chargers are not as popular countrywide like they are in here in Raleigh durham area.

Anyone else in any other part of the USA with a 2018 nissan leaf experience the same issue with Eaton chargers ?

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Re: 2018 Nissan Leaf does not charge at Eaton POW-R-STATION

Sat Mar 17, 2018 5:34 am

skamithi wrote:Thought all my troubles were over when I realized that any Eaton POW-R-Station I use do charge the car. It would produce the red circle with exclamation mark icon on the Eaton L2 charger. So i investigated the issue further. I live in the Raleigh Durham (RTP) area. The following chargers did not work for me.

Durham Southwest library
Chapel hill franklin street
Pittsboro Library
Morrisville City Hall.

...
engineering should workaround the problem like all the EV car brands. I spoke to tesla , BMW and a 2016 nissan leaf owner and all reported no problems using these Eaton chargers.

Thanks for the info. Can you post Plugshare links to these? If you haven't already, can you check in to them and state that you can't charge your '18 Leaf on them?

There are certain Eaton level 2 stations that have trouble w/older Leafs like my '13 and I believe my former leased '13, as well. Example are the ones at https://www.plugshare.com/location/15000. You'll also get a red fault light when trying to charge. But, if you press the station's reset button a few times, it eventually starts and stays charging w/o issue. This has happened every single time I've tried to charge at that hotel and I've always succeeded (and received plenty of juice or fully charged my car) after a couple reset button pushes to get it going.

Eaton L2 EVSEs aren't common in the Bay Area. I've never personally used any except at the above Cupertino Aloft hotel. My memory is foggy as to whether I've personally seen any others in the Bay area.

Here are some earlier threads on I found on Eaton L2 EVSE compat problems w/Leafs before model year 2018:
viewtopic.php?t=18019
viewtopic.php?t=12467

Both threads allude to firmware updates to the stations.

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Re: 2018 Nissan Leaf does not charge at Eaton POW-R-STATION

Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:30 pm

I will update plugshare next week and post the links here. There are a few more Eaton stations in my area not to far for me to check.

I have tried the reset button trick.. in one location it worked..but in most of them, nothing changed.. if you hit reset too many times the Eaton stations just doesn't allow you to hit reset again.

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Re: 2018 Nissan Leaf does not charge at Eaton POW-R-STATION

Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:35 pm

skamithi wrote:I will update plugshare next week and post the links here. There are a few more Eaton stations in my area not to far for me to check.

Thanks!

skamithi wrote:I have tried the reset button trick.. in one location it worked..but in most of them, nothing changed.. if you hit reset too many times the Eaton stations just doesn't allow you to hit reset again.

On the latter, that's weird. For the problem Cupertino Aloft stations I tried, pressing the reset button a bunch of times doesn't seem to have any negative effect. I recall connect it, hitting the fault light and pressing the reset button, waiting for a fault again, etc. and eventually, it works.

That hotel has 3 identical looking Eaton L2 EVSEs in a corner and either 2 or all 3 have the same issue with '13 Leafs.

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Re: 2018 Nissan Leaf does not charge at Eaton POW-R-STATION

Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:13 am

skamithi wrote:I will update plugshare next week and post the links here. There are a few more Eaton stations in my area not to far for me to check.

I have tried the reset button trick.. in one location it worked..but in most of them, nothing changed.. if you hit reset too many times the Eaton stations just doesn't allow you to hit reset again.



So you were able to charge at "some" Eaton stations then? Its simply weird to have issues with level 2. FYI; 2018 LEAF won't charge on Aeroenvironment DCFC.

Aeroenvironment knows what the issue is and per tech, says they are waiting for a response from Nissan as to how to proceed with the fix, whatever that means
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Re: 2018 Nissan Leaf does not charge at Eaton POW-R-STATION

Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:17 pm

Eaton L2s were the first type they bought at my work (http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=24456) and both types we have (Pow-R-Stations and their other L2s) needed to have firmware updates (in 2014) before they would work with the LEAF. I'm not surprised that they might need another with the 2018s. Since Eaton is out of the EVSE business, this doesn't look good.
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Re: 2018 Nissan Leaf does not charge at Eaton POW-R-STATION

Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:51 pm

DaveinOlyWA. No Eaton L2 chargers in my area work properly. my car fails most of the time, and only rarely hitting the charger Reset button works.

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Re: 2018 Nissan Leaf does not charge at Eaton POW-R-STATION

Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:58 pm

skamithi wrote:DaveinOlyWA. No Eaton L2 chargers in my area work properly. my car fails most of the time, and only rarely hitting the charger Reset button works.


The only Eaton I know of is at DOT and its not public and also a DCFC.
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Re: 2018 Nissan Leaf does not charge at Eaton POW-R-STATION

Wed Apr 04, 2018 6:05 am

I wanted to say thanks for posting this. The university I work at has two Eaton charge stations and I had just got my Leaf earlier this week. I couldn't figure out what was going on at first. Here's hoping there's an update that they can get at some point as the other chargers are quite a bit more of a hike from my office building.

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Re: 2018 Nissan Leaf does not charge at Eaton POW-R-STATION

Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:46 pm

Hi-
Having the same issue here. I searched the boards and plugshare for a workaround. The one that was successful for 2013 Leafs does not work for the 2018 model. I attempted to contact Eaton and they no longer service EVSEs. I wrote to Nissan with the issue and am waiting to hear back from them.

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