Gzajdman
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Control Pilot from charge port twisted/bent and it is not fitting on charger

Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:29 pm

Hi All,

Please excuse my ignorance but here goes my question:
The other day I tried to charge my 2014 Leaf at a public charging station and it seems that I forced the Control Pilot from the charge port and now it is not straight, it is bent a little to the side so now my charger at home does not work, my question is if I can use a screwdriver to try to straighten it?? is it safe to do that or is it live with electricity?

Thanks in advance for your help/guidance.

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Re: Control Pilot from charge port twisted/bent and it is not fitting on charger

Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:09 pm

It's not live, and if you break it further, you're really no worse off than you are now. The pilot signal doesn't carry any significant voltage, so I'd say go ahead and try.
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Re: Control Pilot from charge port twisted/bent and it is not fitting on charger

Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:51 pm

Too easy to touch other pins. Turn off the juice !

I would try small needle nosed pliars first with an intent to straighten rather than bend the affected pin.
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Gzajdman
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Re: Control Pilot from charge port twisted/bent and it is not fitting on charger

Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:05 pm

Thanks, I was able to fix it with a screwdriver

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Re: Control Pilot from charge port twisted/bent and it is not fitting on charger

Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:05 pm

SageBrush wrote:Too easy to touch other pins. Turn off the juice !

I would try small needle nosed pliars first with an intent to straighten rather than bend the affected pin.

He's talking about the car inlet. There's nothing there when the car isn't charging.
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SageBrush
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Re: Control Pilot from charge port twisted/bent and it is not fitting on charger

Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:38 pm

davewill wrote:
SageBrush wrote:Too easy to touch other pins. Turn off the juice !

I would try small needle nosed pliars first with an intent to straighten rather than bend the affected pin.

He's talking about the car inlet. There's nothing there when the car isn't charging.

Thanks, my mistake.

Are the pins energized by the 12v ?
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Re: Control Pilot from charge port twisted/bent and it is not fitting on charger

Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:49 pm

SageBrush wrote:
davewill wrote:
SageBrush wrote:Too easy to touch other pins. Turn off the juice !

I would try small needle nosed pliars first with an intent to straighten rather than bend the affected pin.

He's talking about the car inlet. There's nothing there when the car isn't charging.

Thanks, my mistake.

Are the pins energized by the 12v ?

The pilot is +/-12v, but it's energized by the EVSE. The proximity pin is pulled up to 12v by the car, but it should be current limited enough that even a dead short would not cause a problem. It certainly couldn't shock someone.
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Re: Control Pilot from charge port twisted/bent and it is not fitting on charger

Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:55 pm

davewill wrote:
SageBrush wrote:
davewill wrote:He's talking about the car inlet. There's nothing there when the car isn't charging.

Thanks, my mistake.

Are the pins energized by the 12v ?

The pilot is +/-12v, but it's energized by the EVSE. The proximity pin is pulled up to 12v by the car, but it should be current limited enough that even a dead short would not cause a problem. It certainly couldn't shock someone.

I was not thinking of danger to the person, but damage to the charging system from a short.

Any reason to not disconnect the 12v battery before hand ?
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Re: Control Pilot from charge port twisted/bent and it is not fitting on charger

Tue Apr 17, 2018 3:22 pm

SageBrush wrote:I was not thinking of danger to the person, but damage to the charging system from a short.

Any reason to not disconnect the 12v battery before hand ?

No, but there's also no reason to do so. Had it been the EVSE end, I would have had him disconnect the power, but in truth that end is pretty much as safe as the car end. The whole system is designed to make it impossible to shock or break anything by touching. You could short the pilot or the proximity to ground and nothing would happen.
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