WetEV
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Re: Is this a good price for a 2015 Nissan Leaf?

Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:39 am

SageBrush wrote:The battery in my 2013 LEAF is in better shape, and I paid $8300 15 months ago.


And used Leaf prices have risen with the rising price of gasoline.
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briscobully
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Re: Is this a good price for a 2015 Nissan Leaf?

Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:00 am

WetEV wrote:
SageBrush wrote:The battery in my 2013 LEAF is in better shape, and I paid $8300 15 months ago.


And used Leaf prices have risen with the rising price of gasoline.



True, I've seen gas prices rise about .35cents per gallon here over the last month or so... coming into the Summer travel season always jacks the price up here in the City.
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goldbrick
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Re: Is this a good price for a 2015 Nissan Leaf?

Wed Apr 25, 2018 9:20 am

With a 15 mile commute nearly any Leaf will suit your needs. However, you might find you like driving it so much you want to take it 'everywhere'. Eg, out to dinner, to the airport, etc. In the winter the range will drop, especially on an S with the simple heater it has.

I can understand your reluctance to go 'all in' on an EV since it is a quantum jump from what you're used to. I'd suggest being patient and looking nation-wide. Shipping a car is not too expensive and a Leaf is a Leaf pretty much. As you are probably aware, the batteries are NOT the same for all years even if the nominal capacity is the same. And climate, charging and driving habits affect battery life. But if you look around and are patient, you can probably find an older Leaf for < $8000 that will get you to work and back for years.

The prices of used Leaf's does seem to be increasing lately. IMO, it's just a sign of more people getting EV's. I just bought my first NEW car in over 40 years of driving since I could buy a new one for less than the used ones on CL. But that was in CO where the incentives are great.

briscobully
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Re: Is this a good price for a 2015 Nissan Leaf?

Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:00 pm

"As you are probably aware, the batteries are NOT the same for all years even if the nominal capacity is the same. And climate, charging and driving habits affect battery life. But if you look around and are patient, you can probably find an older Leaf for < $8000 that will get you to work and back for years".


My only concern with the above is being able to test the battery via LeafSpy or other reliable method to determine battery quality without relying on the GOM. If I buy from out of state and can't verify the battery quality I'd be worried I may get a dud. That's my concern with buying from Carvana... they never seem to show the instrument panel in their photos and don't trust that process.

Do you or anyone else know someone who purchased from Carvana and had to send it back? Was it a problem to do so or was the process smooth?

Thx.
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LeftieBiker
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Re: Is this a good price for a 2015 Nissan Leaf?

Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:18 pm

I was looking at Carvana Leafs this month, and I used this VIN research site to find where they were originally leased.

https://www.vehiclehistory.com/vehicle/land.php

I was able to get the original locations for most Carvana Leafs, and it became clear that they get most of them from hotter climates like California, Texas, etc. They also offer a great, cheap, extended warranty that is not available for the Leaf. Between those things and the high prices, I don't think Carvana is a good bet, except for maybe the local cars you can look at in person before buying.
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SageBrush
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Re: Is this a good price for a 2015 Nissan Leaf?

Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:50 pm

WetEV wrote:
SageBrush wrote:The battery in my 2013 LEAF is in better shape, and I paid $8300 15 months ago.


And used Leaf prices have risen with the rising price of gasoline.

A little, perhaps.
More I think due to the lack of inexpensive new LEAFs

But no where by that amount, and the 2018 LEAF will get discounts eventually and then the used LEAFs will drop in price again.
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SageBrush
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Re: Is this a good price for a 2015 Nissan Leaf?

Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:55 pm

briscobully wrote:Do you or anyone else know someone who purchased from Carvana and had to send it back? Was it a problem to do so or was the process smooth?

I bought from this company
https://carportal.co/buy/
and shipped the car from CA to Colorado

LeafSpy available if requested.
2013 LEAF 'S' Model with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado
3/2018: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
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briscobully
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Re: Is this a good price for a 2015 Nissan Leaf?

Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:15 pm

SageBrush,

Thanks for the insight... I'll take a look. I see that you have a Leaf S with the QC. What do you think the benefits, if any, are to upgrading the the SV or SL models? I'm leaning toward the 2015 model year in any case. I personally don't care about the Carwings/infotainment system but the wife would prefer the leather seats and I would like the QC just in case. I figure I can always get seat covers for the car instead of upping the price substantially for leather.

thoughts...
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LeftieBiker
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Re: Is this a good price for a 2015 Nissan Leaf?

Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:27 pm

The SV and SL trim levels have a heating system that uses a heatpump as well as a resistance heater. In milder Winter weather (above 25F or so) this adds range - quite a lot of range above freezing. Below about 15F it makes no real difference in range.
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briscobully
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Re: Is this a good price for a 2015 Nissan Leaf?

Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:40 pm

SageBrush wrote:
briscobully wrote:Do you or anyone else know someone who purchased from Carvana and had to send it back? Was it a problem to do so or was the process smooth?

I bought from this company
https://carportal.co/buy/
and shipped the car from CA to Colorado

LeafSpy available if requested.



Curious, I just looked at their website and it says they only ship to the San Francisco Bay area... how did you get them to ship it to Colorado? Did you have to take care of the titling and registering it or did they do that for you? Also, did they negotiate price from what was listed or did you find the price competitive with your market area given you'd have to ship it?
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