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Re: Kona Electric Lifetime battery warranty vs leaf warranty.

Tue Dec 04, 2018 9:51 pm

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Re: Kona Electric Lifetime battery warranty vs leaf warranty.

Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:57 am

alozzy wrote:@SanCarlosJeff https://bit.ly/2rjHGGj


Thanks for that link. It's nice to see an official brochure that confirms the 8yr warranty and also has all the other info for this model. This looks like a great option for my parents next car.
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Re: Kona Electric Lifetime battery warranty vs leaf warranty.

Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:31 am

Great option if you live in California or the Northeast but for me? By the time it gets here, it will have a lot of competition. But for anyone with minimal passenger needs, its a great option. The base trim is loaded making the Bolt at nearly any price a lesser deal.
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Re: Kona Electric Lifetime battery warranty vs leaf warranty.

Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:38 am

My IonQi brochure says the battery is lifetime but the actulal warranty has limits. I think they are confusing the Hybrid with the EV. In California at least the Hybrid cars have a much longer warranty on the battery.
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Re: Kona Electric Lifetime battery warranty vs leaf warranty.

Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:14 pm

Not sure about Kona, but All Ionics hybrids and EV have lifetime HV battery warranty to the original owner (non transferable) and degradation limit is 70% (clarified by Hyundai rep, according to ionic forum).
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Re: Kona Electric Lifetime battery warranty vs leaf warranty.

Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:29 pm

https://www.hyundaiusa.com/kona-electric/index.aspx currently says
A battery warranty that lasts a lifetime.

Hyundai Assurance is renowned as America’s Best Warranty, so it should be no surprise that Kona Electric's lithium-ion polymer battery is covered by a Lifetime Electric Battery Warranty*- an industry exclusive.


The footnote says
Kona EV Lifetime Electric Battery Warranty
The Lifetime Electric Battery Warranty applies to all U.S. 2019 model-year Kona Electrics. The Lifetime Electric Battery Warranty ensures that if the lithium polymer battery fails, Hyundai will replace the battery and cover recycling costs for the old battery free of charge to the original owner. The Lifetime Electric Battery Warranty excludes coverage for vehicles placed in commercial use (e.g., taxi, route delivery, rental, etc.).

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Re: Kona Electric Lifetime battery warranty vs leaf warranty.

Sat Mar 16, 2019 6:53 pm

Leaf15 wrote:Not sure about Kona, but All Ionics hybrids and EV have lifetime HV battery warranty to the original owner (non transferable) and degradation limit is 70% (clarified by Hyundai rep, according to ionic forum).


I thought that program ended?


**edit**

Ok it was the unlimited "mileage" leases that ended. I knew there was an "unlimited" in there somewhere... :roll:
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Re: Kona Electric Lifetime battery warranty vs leaf warranty.

Sun Mar 17, 2019 6:20 am

aluminumwelder wrote:Even though the 2019 Kona is more expensive than the leaf, when you figure in the lifetime battery warranty for the original buyer, it seems like a better deal in the long run?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lsVDdgLXho


You are confusing degradation with defect ?
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Leaf15
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Re: Kona Electric Lifetime battery warranty vs leaf warranty.

Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:22 am

SageBrush wrote:You are confusing degradation with defect ?

It would not be confused in the court of law. Lost capacity is a defect. The degradation baseline is well established by the industry already. Hyundai would replace the battery to avoid getting another scandal by any cost, besides they might just pass some portion of the cost to LG as they most likely have an agreement to back those warranty claims.
Ionic is pretty much bulletproof as it has way bigger battery than Hyundai is advertising. The 64kWh battery on Kona & Niro does not have much of extra buffers in capacity, so I have no idea what those warranty claims are based on. Maybe they just hope an average buyer would replace vehicles every 3-6 years (not me for sure).
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Re: Kona Electric Lifetime battery warranty vs leaf warranty.

Sun Mar 17, 2019 9:53 am

Leaf15 wrote: Lost capacity is a defect

No
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03/2018: 58 Ahr, 28k miles
11/2018: 56.16 Ahr, 30k miles
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