lorenfb
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Re: 2013 Leaf SL, should I buy?

Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:35 am

SageBrush wrote:@Cwerdna, I was just pointing out that '12 bars' leaves an uncertainty of up to 15% of useful range.

Does a BMS reset affect the LEAFspy report ?


LeafSpy will always provide the actual value of the key Leaf battery parameter of Ahrs.

cwerdna
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Re: 2013 Leaf SL, should I buy?

Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:22 am

SageBrush wrote:Does a BMS reset affect the LEAFspy report ?

I unfortunately don't recall. :oops:

Someone will need to go back and look at threads for those who were likely victims and also had Leaf Spy readings during the time the BMS relearned the pack.

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DaveinOlyWA
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Re: 2013 Leaf SL, should I buy?

Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:27 pm

you want our advice but gave us nearly ZERO details.

what is the mileage?
where did the car live?
what "does" it have if not premium?
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles. 2016 S30; 18,297 miles. 363 GIDs, Ahr 82.34, Hx; 100.00% kwh 28.1 QCs 165, L2's 190
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SageBrush
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Re: 2013 Leaf SL, should I buy?

Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:31 pm

lorenfb wrote:
SageBrush wrote:@Cwerdna, I was just pointing out that '12 bars' leaves an uncertainty of up to 15% of useful range.

Does a BMS reset affect the LEAFspy report ?


LeafSpy will always provide the actual value of the key Leaf battery parameter of Ahrs.

Thanks, good to know.

Do you know what CANbus number is affecting the bars in the reset ?
Probably not, since the bars has also been a mystery how it is calculated. That reset might be a clue
2013 Model 'S' with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California with 63.9 Ahr after 22k miles
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado

lorenfb
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Re: 2013 Leaf SL, should I buy?

Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:58 pm

SageBrush wrote:
lorenfb wrote:
SageBrush wrote:@Cwerdna, I was just pointing out that '12 bars' leaves an uncertainty of up to 15% of useful range.

Does a BMS reset affect the LEAFspy report ?


LeafSpy will always provide the actual value of the key Leaf battery parameter of Ahrs.

Thanks, good to know.

Do you know what CANbus number is affecting the bars in the reset ?
Probably not, since the bars has also been a mystery how it is calculated. That reset might be a clue


It's better to post this on the LeafSpyPro thread and ask Jim who designed that app.

Nagorak
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Re: 2013 Leaf SL, should I buy?

Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:40 pm

cwerdna wrote:I don't think you want to do that.

Buying an OEM headunit w/nav is VERY expensive. The OEM head unit on an SV or SL has the nav and integration w/the climate control and various EV specific displays (e.g. stuff via the Zero Emissions button). Swap it to a non-Leaf one and there goes all of that.

I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve.



I don't have an SL or SV, I have an S, which doesn't have any of that stuff integrated anyway. To swap out the S's unit you just have to connect the backup camera and the steering wheel controls to the new unit.

That's why I am saying the OP could drop down to an S and swap out the stereo as an alternative. Maybe it's not what they want to do, it's just a suggestion. I agree buying a more expensive model and then removing the head unit sounds like a bad idea.

Neurosion
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Re: 2013 Leaf SL, should I buy?

Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:09 pm

Thanks everyone who gave their thoughts. I did walk away from the original deal. That same dealership offered me a different 2013 SL with premium package for $9.5k (previously listed at $10.5k). I talked a different dealership into pricematching and bought it. Really happy with the Leaf overall, except for Carwings/NissanConnect not working, but that's bad on me for not doing enough research.

VitaminJ
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Re: 2013 Leaf SL, should I buy?

Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:37 pm

Yeah, I was bummed about the 3G upgrade too but it was also part of the reason I bought the car so I'm having it done to mine. Did you get a chance to run Leafspy? That really is the best way to get the condition of the battery. Mine has gone up almost 1Ah and Hx and SOH have also gone up by about 1.5% since I bought it and am now using it. Same temperatures.
2013 Ocean Blue SV w/ QC and LED
- +0.2 mi/kwh Aeromods
- Leaf Box
- 2lb 5Ah LiFe 12v battery

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