dibun
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Buying help for 2017 leaf

Wed Nov 29, 2017 5:28 pm

I am planning to buy a used 2017 leaf but since they are imported from EU/US I have the following questions

-Is there any way to check if the odometer is tampered/km reduced? Will there be any logs left?
-Where does the odometer values are stored? cluster/BCM/ECU? Is it stored in single or multiple places?
-Can leaf spy detect then unauthorised changes?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Buying help for 2017 leaf

Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:19 pm

dibun wrote:-Can leaf spy detect then unauthorised changes?

No for BMS resets. :( See viewtopic.php?f=30&t=23714&p=489807&hilit=reset#p489807. Read other posts by AntronX in that thread.

If it's going to come from the US, I would strongly suggest getting a Carfax and/or Autocheck to see if the odometer in the car's values are out of whack from what those reports say.

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Re: Buying help for 2017 leaf

Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:36 pm

I'd say that the biggest concern with buying a 2017 Leaf is the terrible battery pack chemistry. Unless the car resided in a genuinely cold climate, it will already be degraded, with more rapid degradation to follow if your climate isn't also downright COLD...
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dibun
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Re: Buying help for 2017 leaf

Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:21 am

LeftieBiker wrote:I'd say that the biggest concern with buying a 2017 Leaf is the terrible battery pack chemistry. Unless the car resided in a genuinely cold climate, it will already be degraded, with more rapid degradation to follow if your climate isn't also downright COLD...


I live in Norway so here it is cold.

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Re: Buying help for 2017 leaf

Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:23 am

cwerdna wrote:
dibun wrote:-Can leaf spy detect then unauthorised changes?

No for BMS resets. :( See http://www.mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.p ... et#p489807. Read other posts by AntronX in that thread.

If it's going to come from the US, I would strongly suggest getting a Carfax and/or Autocheck to see if the odometer in the car's values are out of whack from what those reports say.


I read his posts but it is mostly about BMS but I want to know how to detect odometer changes.

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Re: Buying help for 2017 leaf

Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:36 am

dibun wrote:I read his posts but it is mostly about BMS but I want to know how to detect odometer changes.

Beats me. There are no logs that we know of about BMS resets.

The odometer in my car is about 1 or 2 miles off from what Leaf Spy says but I'm not concerned about a rollback given that my used Leaf was a 2 year lease return and the mileage I saw in the car made sense vs. Autocheck and Carfax. It had under 24K miles on it. 2 year/24K leases weren't uncommon. I did that w/my former original '13.

It's not like people can put on that many miles on a '17 Leaf anyway. It doesn't have that much range.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/10 ... red-monday is one of the most extreme along w/any that have been used for taxi or ridesharing (e.g. Uber or Lyft) duty. I don't think I've ever seen a Leaf taxi in the US in my life. There are a few that use a Leaf for Uber...

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Re: Buying help for 2017 leaf

Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:24 am

You said "imported" from US or EU, where do you live? Does't your country have specific EV regulations that you need to look too?
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Re: Buying help for 2017 leaf

Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:33 am

armmynissanleaf wrote:You said "imported" from US or EU, where do you live? Does't your country have specific EV regulations that you need to look too?


I live in Norway but here most 2nd hand Leaf's are imported from US or Europe. It seems the on most imported cars odometer are changed to a lower value but with digital odometer it is almost impossible to find out.

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Re: Buying help for 2017 leaf

Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:55 am

The good news is that odometer mileage matters little. It's the battery pack condition that matters most with a Leaf.
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