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Re: End of Lease Strategies?

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:11 pm
by oleviking
I have already lost 3 bars at around 11,000 miles and have until 10/19 for my lease to end. I am seriously thinking about buying a used Tesla S to end my range anxiety/limitations. A Bolt lease also is in the thinking. Thoughts?

Re: End of Lease Strategies?

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:15 pm
by AlanSqB
That amount of capacity loss is not even close to normal. You need to bring it in to the dealer for them to test. There is something very wrong with your car.

Re: End of Lease Strategies?

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:25 pm
by Oils4AsphaultOnly
oleviking wrote:I have already lost 3 bars at around 11,000 miles and have until 10/19 for my lease to end. I am seriously thinking about buying a used Tesla S to end my range anxiety/limitations. A Bolt lease also is in the thinking. Thoughts?


What area are you in? Depending on region, that loss may be normal. See this thread for others: viewtopic.php?f=30&t=23606

Are you trying to hold yourself over until a model 3? Or would it be a permanent replacement? If it's temporary and if you can make the range work, a used 2014/2015 leaf would probably be a more cost effective holdover.

Re: End of Lease Strategies?

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:05 pm
by AlanSqB
Normal as in “we’ve seen that before”. Not normal in that it would qualify for warranty replacement at just 11k miles.

Re: End of Lease Strategies?

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:49 am
by oleviking
I am in Orlando, Fl - the car was made in November of 2015 and I leased it in October 2016. I suspect that the year it spent on the lot, it may have been fully charged most of the time. In fact another LEAF driver purchased one from the same dealership and is having the same battery issues as I am. I have had one battery test, all good (this is after loosing two bars in 12 days at around 7,000 miles), will have another one in a couple of weeks.

Re: End of Lease Strategies?

Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2018 11:37 pm
by mantar
My 2015 S which I got the 10000 buyout offer from Town Center Nissan has lost one bar a few weeks ago. It is 3 and half years old with 36,000 miles. But the range seems to have nosedived in the 20-30 degree weather we have been experiencing recently in Atlanta. In past winters, I was getting 60 miles with the heater on and some highway driving. This last week, it's been nearly 35 miles!!! yes, I do have the main heater on all the time at 74 degrees and the seat heater occasionally.

I gotta say, I always charge overnight because I have a cheap overnight power rate. So many times it is close to 100% fully charged. I had no idea that was supposed to be bad for capacity long term. Probably going to turn in the lease in April when it is done unless they offer a much much better buyout offer which is at least 3500 less than their 10000 offer.

Re: End of Lease Strategies?

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:01 am
by LeftieBiker
It seems that even when you realize that the first (last?) bar is worth 15% capacity, the range plummets as you approach losing it. I don't know if it's a psychological thing, or if there is another yet-unidentified Nissan Gremlin in the BMS...

Re: End of Lease Strategies?

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:02 am
by RobertM
I'd hoped to buy out my 2015 SL lease, but 2 dealerships here tell me there is no discount. Will check one more but won't pay the full residual, since that would basically be the full MSRP. At almost 42K miles, still showing SOH of 98%, so wish I had bought this one. I charge to 100% majority of the time, so PA must be a good for EVs and the lizard battery. Test drove the BoltEV last week. Nice car. Want to check out the 2018, but have to admit that the 30kWh battery loss of capacity has me concerned.

Re: End of Lease Strategies?

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 9:11 am
by HIOJim
RobertM wrote:I'd hoped to buy out my 2015 SL lease, but 2 dealerships here tell me there is no discount. Will check one more but won't pay the full residual, since that would basically be the full MSRP. ...

I'd love to know the thought process behind Nissan's 'no discount' policy. Do they really want a glut of used Leafs flooding their 2018 sales market? The leaked data of the 2019 model specs will already make potential buyers hesitate and giving these people a cheap 'wait and see' option seems counter-intuitive.

The combination of no discounts, degrading battery capacity of my 2016 SV and the 2019 model (with TMS?) has already worked its magic on me - I'm solidly in the 'wait and see' camp and have extended my $250/mo lease for 6 more months.

Re: End of Lease Strategies?

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2018 12:19 pm
by Katera
This is my last post on this board. I have posted several times over the last year trying to get more info on buying out my 2015 top of the line Leaf. We loved the car, and took the 3 free months extension. After being very disappointed in the range of the 2018 we decided to buy this car. Even though the incentives seem to be going down from their peak last spring, we figured hey they will still be high enough to justify the purchase. Then BAM! Incentives dropped completely. As much as it pained us, we turned her in a few days ago. I've never been so sad to see a vehicle go, but I was not going to pay full price for a car with 85 miles of range in 2018. Nissan is nuts if they think these things are going to still be big sellers at this range. Ah well, at least I got my 3 months free! Good luck all. I really enjoyed my leaf, but sadly it's back to fossil fuels.