LeftieBiker wrote:You live in one of the mildest climates in the country. My guess - and it is only a guess, at the moment - is that the 30kwh pack, even if it does use the Lizard chemistry, suffers from heat-induced degradation more because of the more densely-packed cells. So it may be that people in milder climates can get a great deal on a 30kwh Leaf by getting one with lost bars and then having the update applied. I'm not going to tell anyone to do that, though, because of the possibility that the update won't fix their particular car.
all 3 of my LEAFs lived in the same mild climate and there is no question that my 2016 LEAF suffered thru a LOT more heat. My 2011 iirc never saw more than 7 TBs. My 2013 only saw 8 TBs or more on a few extended trips. Contrast that to my 2016 that spent nearly EVERY day in Summer at 8 TBs or more.
But who knows what might have happened at 40,000 miles or a 2nd Summer, right? One thought could be the fact that the 24 kwh LEAFs were charged to 100% almost daily while the 2016 was charged to 100% only occasionally. After all, it would be tough to evaluate the effects of multiple daily QCs if I was always leaving home with a full battery.
For reference degradation on 2011; about 12%, my 2013; 9%, my 2016? 2% "maybe"...
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles.2016 S30 deceased
. 29,413 miles. 2018 S40; 15,000 miles, 478 GIDs, 37.0 kwh 109.81 Ahr , SOH 94.61, Hx 120.15
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