Snlj
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Location: Madison, WI

Used Leaf prep

Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:47 am

Hello Everybody,

I'm preparing to purchase my first used Leaf in a couple of weeks. The dealership I'll be going to currently has three in stock:

A 2013 SV with 14,000 miles and Fast Charge for $9,990
Two 2014 SL's with 25,000, 27,000 miles for $13,490 and $12,490 respectively.

I'm leaning more towards one of the SL's because of the features, but it seems, given that all three have Fast Charge, that battery capacity could be a determining factor.

I've ordered a KW902 which will arrive today, so I'll have that all set when I go to look at them.

I'm wondering if folks here can offer suggestions as to what I should be considering when I look at these cars. I'm aware of battery capacity bars, manufacture date, and general condition, but what other things should I be looking at, specifically with LeafSpy? Which factors should I weigh most heavily? Things like that.

Also, if a thread or sticky like this already exists, I'd love to be linked to it so I can read up there too.

Thanks!

mrringtone
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Joined: Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:16 pm
Delivery Date: 14 Sep 2015
Leaf Number: 001062

Re: Used Leaf prep

Fri Mar 03, 2017 11:27 am

Snlj,

Keep in mind that the Nissan leaf has terrible resale value. If you want the 2013 or 2014 because of the 6.6 kW charging I would buy one with higher miles and if the battery is good or needs to be replaced the warranty will reset. Also depending on your climate, you may want a newer model. I have a 2011 Leaf I purchased 2 years ago with 24k miles that had a new battery installed 6 months after purchasing it. I just used the QC a few times and drained the battery down to loose my last bar.
Last edited by mrringtone on Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:52 pm, edited 1 time in total.

LeftieBiker
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Location: Upstate New York, US

Re: Used Leaf prep

Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:38 pm

If you want the 2013 or 2014 because of the 6.6 kWh charging I would buy one with higher miles and if the battery is good or needs to be replaced the warranty will reset.


What?
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

The most offensive, tasteless phrase in use here is "Pulled the trigger." I no longer respond to posts that use it.

powersurge
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Location: Long Island, NY

Re: Used Leaf prep

Fri Mar 03, 2017 5:50 pm

If you are willing to put down almost $15,000 on a used Leaf, I would highly recommend that you do not do this until you price a NEW Leaf... A brand new S leaf would run about 29-30, minus the federal and state rebates, and the Nissan rebates when you get 0% financing.

All those discounts should bring down the price of a NEW Leaf to the $18-20K range, and you would have a beautiful car of your choice with no risk, right from the factory.... Plus, you would have a 17' Leaf with good resale value or many years.

In order to Buy used, I would not spend more than $10k on a 2015 with low miles. In my opinion, a 2011-2013 should only cost $6-8K.

LeftieBiker
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Re: Used Leaf prep

Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:17 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:
If you want the 2013 or 2014 because of the 6.6 kWh charging I would buy one with higher miles and if the battery is good or needs to be replaced the warranty will reset.


What?


If that poster is saying that the battery capacity and/or defect warranty start fresh with a new owner, that is not correct.
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

The most offensive, tasteless phrase in use here is "Pulled the trigger." I no longer respond to posts that use it.

Evoforce
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Delivery Date: 28 Feb 2015
Location: Fountain Hills Arizona

Re: Used Leaf prep

Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:01 am

I think Mrringtone is confused about the warranty of his free replacement battery for his 2011 Leaf. A free replacement traction battery only has a 12 month/12,000 mile warranty. If you purchase a new battery you get 60 month/60,000 mile warranty providing it is a 24kWh battery. Anyway... Snlj, I would try to find the best 30 kWh car if you cannot afford the Chevy Bolt. Mind you, we love our two leafs with replacement batteries, but Nissan has so far not had any plans to provide active thermal management on their batteries. In Arizona, that means a much shorter life.
2011 Leaf 1 bought 2/28/15 @ 28,000ish mi. 10 bar (8 bars @ 11/25/15 @ 37,453 ) (New lizard @ 39,275 mi. on 1/20/2016) Now 52,166 mi.

2011 Leaf 2 bought 4/28/15 @ 24,000ish mi. 12 bar (new lizard Dec. 2014 @ 22,273 miles) Now 35,485 mi.

Snlj
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Joined: Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:55 pm
Delivery Date: 20 Mar 2017
Location: Madison, WI

Re: Used Leaf prep

Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:10 am

powersurge wrote:If you are willing to put down almost $15,000 on a used Leaf, I would highly recommend that you do not do this until you price a NEW Leaf... A brand new S leaf would run about 29-30, minus the federal and state rebates, and the Nissan rebates when you get 0% financing.

All those discounts should bring down the price of a NEW Leaf to the $18-20K range, and you would have a beautiful car of your choice with no risk, right from the factory.... Plus, you would have a 17' Leaf with good resale value or many years.

In order to Buy used, I would not spend more than $10k on a 2015 with low miles. In my opinion, a 2011-2013 should only cost $6-8K.


Thanks for the advice!

I've looked at new Leafs (starting at around $30,000) and the available rebates (around $5,000 between federal and state), and I don't think I can afford it at this time.

I'm aiming to only get a 2013 or newer. While $15,000 is a little more than I'd wanted to spend, I can be fine with it if it's the right car.

Again, thanks for the advice!

DaveinOlyWA
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Re: Used Leaf prep

Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:14 am

Snlj wrote:Hello Everybody,

I'm preparing to purchase my first used Leaf in a couple of weeks. The dealership I'll be going to currently has three in stock:

A 2013 SV with 14,000 miles and Fast Charge for $9,990
Two 2014 SL's with 25,000, 27,000 miles for $13,490 and $12,490 respectively.

I'm leaning more towards one of the SL's because of the features, but it seems, given that all three have Fast Charge, that battery capacity could be a determining factor.

I've ordered a KW902 which will arrive today, so I'll have that all set when I go to look at them.

I'm wondering if folks here can offer suggestions as to what I should be considering when I look at these cars. I'm aware of battery capacity bars, manufacture date, and general condition, but what other things should I be looking at, specifically with LeafSpy? Which factors should I weigh most heavily? Things like that.

Also, if a thread or sticky like this already exists, I'd love to be linked to it so I can read up there too.

Thanks!


you really need to post your location

http://daveinolywa.blogspot.com/2017/02 ... guide.html
2011 SL; 44,598 miles. 2013 S; 44,840 miles. 2016 S30; 6190 miles. 363 GIDs, Ahr 82.34, Hx; 102ish% kwh 28.1
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Snlj
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Location: Madison, WI

Re: Used Leaf prep

Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:32 am

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
you really need to post your location

http://daveinolywa.blogspot.com/2017/02 ... guide.html


Thanks! I hadn't come across this page yet.

I'm in Wisconsin.

EDIT:

Thank you for documenting all of this information!! Seriously, you're a wealth of knowledge!

LeftieBiker
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Re: Used Leaf prep

Sat Mar 04, 2017 2:23 pm

It doesn't work with all EVs (don't try it with a Bolt!) but you can use a good lease deal as a way to drive, and then eventually buy, a new Leaf. You lease for 3 years with about $2k down, then you can buy the car for roughly $13k when the lease ends. 2017 leases are high, but leftover 2016 deals are out there.
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

The most offensive, tasteless phrase in use here is "Pulled the trigger." I no longer respond to posts that use it.

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