SageBrush
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Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:28 am
Delivery Date: 13 Feb 2017
Location: Colorado

Re: Warranty confusion - Help!

Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:02 am

By the way, OP:
How may miles a day will you drive the LEAF between charges ?
What is the minimum time the car has to last ?
How severe a winter do you have ?

My wife and I are happy with our LEAF as a second car used locally, but it is not good for much more than that and the battery degrades by the month. Do your homework to be sure the car fits your requirements now and down the road.
2013 Model 'S' with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California with 63.9 Ahr after 22k miles
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado

sciencegirl
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Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:11 pm
Delivery Date: 17 Apr 2017

Re: Warranty confusion - Help!

Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:09 am

I didn't expect many to respond to my first post - thank you all for taking the time. I hope to be a frequent visitor as soon as I get my own baby. I'm going to push my luck since I have your attention and ask away ....


I did get a carfax - clean titles and both cars have spent their lives in New Jersey, where I currently (pun) live. Summers get hot here but no long stretches above 90 - avg btwn 65-85F. The 2014 I mentioned earlier spent it's life in Boston, another reason I put that car third on my preference)

Winters are my worry. Anyone with two cents worth on worst case scenario ranges in tri-state area winter
in which January is the coldest month with temps avg upper 30's to lower 40's. Otherwise temp avg. for the year is 55F?

LeftieBiker
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Joined: Wed May 22, 2013 3:17 am
Delivery Date: 31 May 2013
Location: Upstate New York, US

Re: Warranty confusion - Help!

Sat Sep 16, 2017 12:16 pm

The heatpump-equipped cars (SV and SL) should get about 60-65 miles of range in Winter weather above 25F, and more like 47-55 miles in frigid weather. I have a 2013 with about 86% capacity, and those are my figures for upstate NY.
2013 "Brilliant Silver" SV with Premium Package and no QC, and 2009 Vectrix VX-1 with 18 Leaf cells.

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SageBrush
Posts: 1221
Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2011 2:28 am
Delivery Date: 13 Feb 2017
Location: Colorado

Re: Warranty confusion - Help!

Sat Sep 16, 2017 6:13 pm

sciencegirl wrote:Winters are my worry. Anyone with two cents worth on worst case scenario ranges in tri-state area winter
in which January is the coldest month with temps avg upper 30's to lower 40's. Otherwise temp avg. for the year is 55F?

A lot depends on how you use heating and how much defrost (an energy hog!) is required.

We live in Colorado where the air is dry enough to not require a lot of defrost use, and we minimize heater use by pre-heating the car in the garage before a drive and using seat heat, gloves, and warm clothes rather than cabin heat. All told our winter range loss is ~ 10% compared to balmy weather but it could easily be 40% if our behaviours were different and the car lived outside.

Another confounding factor to consider is that the battery will take up less energy during a charge as the battery temperature decreases in the winter, and battery resistance increases as its temperature drops, adding another inefficiency to winter driving.
2013 Model 'S' with QC & rear-view camera
Bought off-lease Jan 2017 from N. California with 63.9 Ahr after 22k miles
Car is now enjoying an easy life in Colorado

RonDawg
Posts: 2686
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:46 am
Delivery Date: 11 Jan 2013
Leaf Number: 027089
Location: SoCal

Re: Warranty confusion - Help!

Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:46 pm

Durandal wrote:Warranty is irrespective of the number of owners, so all other things the same, the number of owners is irrelevant.


Maybe for Nissan, but not for all brands. For example, Hyundai's 10 year/100k miles powertrain warranty only applies to the original owner, or a second owner IF the car was sold as an official Hyundai Certified Pre-Owned. Otherwise, after the car is sold off by its original owner, the powertrain warranty drops to the typical 5 year/60k miles.

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Blue Ocean 2012 Leaf SV, lost that 1st bar on 11/21/2015 at 26,435 miles.
Lease returned on 12/23/2015. Final LeafStat figures: 225 Gids, 17.44 kWH, SOC 91.89%, SOH 82.36%, 69.49% HX, 54.57 Ahr, battery temp 61.8 F
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eatsleafsandshoots
Posts: 69
Joined: Wed Oct 16, 2013 5:23 pm
Delivery Date: 16 Oct 2013
Location: Denver, CO

Re: Warranty confusion - Help!

Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:12 pm

$9k sounds like a terrible price for a 40k mile Leaf when they're being sold NEW with 30kWh packs for $12k + a free 3 year Rogue lease in Colorado.

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