Flyct
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Leaf Plus - Why so low inventory?

Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:34 am

When we bought our 2019 Leaf Plus just 10 weeks ago I could only find 5 within a 250 mile radius of us. Those didn’t last on dealer lots for long. They all were sold within 2 weeks

I just looked today and there are only 2 within 250 miles. WHY IS THIS?

The additional range of our 19 Plus compared to our 40 kWh battery 2018 SL has increased the car’s utility tremendously for us. We now make a 130 mile one way trip to our cabin with no range anxiety and when we are local we only charge 1/2 as often.

So, why the low dealer inventory for the Leaf Plus? Is there something coming better shortly that I’m unaware of?
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webeleafowners
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Re: Leaf Plus - Why so low inventory?

Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:45 am

No idea. But it seems like a missed opportunity. In BC (my province) EV takeip is 8 percent of new sales and growing. If you order a leaf Eplus today you will be told it will be a minimum of 6 months to get one. That list has shortened a bit as it was 8 months when we ordered ours. At that point many people just say screw it and order a Tesla that they can have in 6 weeks.

Talking to the one chap at the dealership, as far as they know Nissan has no plans for additional production. They sell about 18 standard leafs a month....when they can get them. Good dealer actually. Two leaf techs. New building and well set up for EV growth. Three level 2 chargers for customers.
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Leaf Plus - Why so low inventory?

Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:43 am

Though not spoken about online very much, I am guessing Nissan also has battery constraints on the number of bigger batteries is can sell, (Like Kia/Hyundai) but has better production capabilities for the 40kWh battery across multiple sites. This is reflected in the deeper discounts for the Leaf over the Leaf Plus and why the 40 is the only model available in many markets (Australia, Philippines, Indonesia, South Africa, LATAM, etc.). Its only selling the 62 in Europe, UK, US, Japan, and Canada I think due to competitive pressures in those markets, and in many of the markets only a top trim level to help manage demand.

Certainly even part of Teslas strategy in dropping the kWh badge on the cars is so that as they develop efficiencies, they can reduce the battery footprint on the same car while offering an equivalent EPA.
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SageBrush
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Re: Leaf Plus - Why so low inventory?

Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:18 am

OP: How much are you willing to pay ?

That is why
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Leaf Plus - Why so low inventory?

Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:18 pm

A quick review of the website shows that inventories are increasing.

Let's see if all of the utility company programs can help stoke demand in the US. I am a bit surprised they are not shipping more Leaf's to Canada given the backlog.
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Dooglas
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Re: Leaf Plus - Why so low inventory?

Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:21 am

Assisted by various rebates and credits, it has been possible to buy a 30 KWH, or even 40 KWH, Leaf for under $20k, sometimes well under. Now the E+ goes for $35-40K after incentives. That is not a formula for increasing demand. My guess is that Nissan isn't selling that many units these days. Using the small sample of my local dealer, he used to have 20 or 30 Leaf vehicles of all models and colors on his back lot at any given time. He now has 2 or 3 available on his lot at any given time, maybe 1 of them is a plus.
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Leaf Plus - Why so low inventory?

Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:33 am

The Plus goes for 25-32k after the Federal rebate. At the lower end, it’s not that far from a sedan or mid tier hatchback.

The non-plus is insanely cheap in some states.
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frontrangeleaf
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Re: Leaf Plus - Why so low inventory?

Mon Aug 26, 2019 3:52 pm

Availability of the Plus was pretty good in the Denver area when we were looking in July, at least at the 2 leading dealerships, Tynan's in Aurora and Boulder Nissan. Other dealers, not so much.

Had a great experience at Boulder Nissan, for the record. They had several to choose from in a variety of colors. Salesperson was knowledgeable, no BS, no pressure, had an in-house expert they could go to who was credible. Very different experience from some other stories I've heard.

Possibly not the very best price in the end, but definitely feel we got a fair deal with our trade, incentives, etc. Came to within about $500 of a similarly equipped Corolla. Looking at it that way, I feel we got a great value.
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DougWantsALeaf
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Re: Leaf Plus - Why so low inventory?

Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:44 am

The Leaf would sell better if they reduced the incentives and msrp price. More would look at the car
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goldbrick
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Re: Leaf Plus - Why so low inventory?

Wed Aug 28, 2019 10:10 am

DougWantsALeaf wrote:
Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:44 am
The Leaf would sell better if they reduced the incentives and msrp price. More would look at the car
Agreed. When I bought my Leaf, a new one (after incentives) was cheaper than virtually all the used Leaf's on the local CL. After I explained the incentives and final cost to a co-worker he bought one as well.

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