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Re: Official Southern California Edison thread

Tue Oct 17, 2017 4:22 pm

tbleakne wrote:Received letter from SCE "Here's how you compare to neighbors" for billing period Aug 23 to Sep 21

"Efficient neighbors" 638 kWh
Me 864 kWh
Av neighbors 1,001 kWh

They rate this as "good" not "great"

The 864 is correct sum over On peak, Mid peak, and Off peak for total consumption, but it ignores generation total of -697 kWh, for net usage of + 167 kWh....


Yes, I've noticed the same thing from the messages I've been receiving from SCE, also. In my case, I think they tell me that I'm in the area of using too much power. But net, I've only used about 1mWh for the past 7 months. I just ignore them, since the messages are inaccurate.
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Re: Official Southern California Edison thread

Tue Oct 17, 2017 7:10 pm

tbleakne wrote:I did not have my new additional 3.8 kW DC of solar installed this time last year, so my usage is up, but still lots of $ TOU cumulative credit to use up by Feb 2017. I hope to use up much of it this winter by running my heat pump in heat mode, avoiding natural gas.

What kind of heat pump did you end up buying? I have a bid to install an LG air-sourced heat pump system (18000 BTU, 20.5 SEER) with a single air handler for $3600, which includes installing a new 30 amp circuit with over 30 feet of conduit. We would just use it to heat and cool our central living space, not the entire house. (We have a 92% efficient natural gas forced air heater, but no existing AC.)
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Re: Official Southern California Edison thread

Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:52 pm

tbleakne wrote:Received letter from SCE "Here's how you compare to neighbors" for billing period Aug 23 to Sep 21

"Efficient neighbors" 638 kWh
Me 864 kWh
Av neighbors 1,001 kWh

They rate this as "good" not "great"

The 864 is correct sum over On peak, Mid peak, and Off peak for total consumption, but it ignores generation total of -697 kWh, for net usage of + 167 kWh. My TOU credit for period is -$63, cumulative credit for 8 months -$794, cumulative kWh -211.

So for this letter I only got credit for the power that I consumed "behind the meter"

I did not have my new additional 3.8 kW DC of solar installed this time last year, so my usage is up, but still lots of $ TOU cumulative credit to use up by Feb 2017. I hope to use up much of it this winter by running my heat pump in heat mode, avoiding natural gas.
Those letters mean nothing to solar homes or those with EVs.
Just intended for those on schedule B trying to save a buck.

I never do understand why the utility wants us to conserve.
Is not solar the ultimate in conservation but they get all upset at net metering. Lame.
And then they go and promote EVs. WTH.
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Re: Official Southern California Edison thread

Tue Oct 17, 2017 9:59 pm

smkettner wrote:I never do understand why the utility wants us to conserve.
Is not solar the ultimate in conservation but they get all upset at net metering. Lame.
And then they go and promote EVs. WTH.


They don't want us to conserve. But they are required to promote conservation and spending designated conservation funds on these measurements and e-mail system allows them to claim they are doing something while they really aren't accomplishing much. But they will still try to thwart it every chance they can get away with, hence their making it difficult to do solar. And yes, they promote EVs, because that will boost consumption, especially if they can deter solar.

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Re: Official Southern California Edison thread

Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:09 pm

Another good example of them doing everything they can to delay and deter - I submitted my approved application for their $450 rebate for EVs back in July and still no rebate check. Somehow, they claim it takes them 90 days from approval to issue a payment. Wonder how they would react if I told them it would take me 90 days to issue them their bill payment?

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Re: Official Southern California Edison thread

Wed Oct 18, 2017 11:33 am

My $450 came right about 90 days IIRC.
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Re: Official Southern California Edison thread

Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:13 pm

Same here. Got $900 total in rebates for both of our EVs after a few months. This was a pleasant surprise, as neither of our EVs was what I'd call cheap - we'd still be driving our used Prius most of the time if no EVs were available to buy.

Also, I agree that the utilities would actually prefer that we buy lots of energy from them. Many SCE folks, even those who may be climate change skeptics, are rooting for EVs for this reason.
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Re: Official Southern California Edison thread

Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:13 am

I opted out of the "your rating" letters, the Edison person on the phone agreed they bear no meaning for solar customers.
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Re: Official Southern California Edison thread

Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:16 am

The $450 check came earlier this week, and the end of this week is a a full 4 months after submitting the application. So they do honor the rebate, which I appreciate. But the excess delay is annoying. So if you apply for it, be aware it will take time.

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