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Re: Other Utilities

Tue Feb 01, 2011 4:52 pm

DarkStar wrote:No, the EPA uses the equivalent of 33.7 KWh of energy in one gallon of gasoline. Physically, it takes 7.4 KWh of electricity to "create" one gallon of gasoline.


More info than you would want to read ;)

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Re: Other Utilities

Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:47 pm

evnow wrote:
DarkStar wrote:No, the EPA uses the equivalent of 33.7 KWh of energy in one gallon of gasoline. Physically, it takes 7.4 KWh of electricity to "create" one gallon of gasoline.


More info than you would want to read ;)

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=820

This post specifically, thanks for finding that thread. :)
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Re: Other Utilities

Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:56 am

Rather than start a brand new thread as the ramp up in the midwest is probably going to be slow ... thought I would comment a bit about electric rates here around Chicago. Our power utility (ComEd) within the last year was required to let competitors (basically electricity resellers) into the market so I was able to lock in an overall rate of 6.6 cents/KWh for the next 18 months that's a flat rate (no peak or off-peak requirements) versus about 7.9 cents which is where ComEd is at today (ComEd's rate changes monthly -- up and down; hasn't been below 6.6 in a few years). Although I'm not anticipating huge swings in electric usage due to plugging in the LEAF, I'll be looking to see what others have seen since they've had their cars for some time now. We see a few mentions of improving the grid as well as adding quick charge stations (Walgreen's put two downtown) but nothing really noteworthy as of yet around here --- again, the recent move by Nissan to open up the Chicago market much sooner was a bit of surprise and I have a quote waiting for my approval so may become an owner much sooner. I'm even still hedging a bit on the whole AV-based EV charging unit as I think our daily mileage may not need it -- the longest may be on one day over a weekend so plenty of time for it to recover for the work commute. If any others in the midwest can share their own expectations or experiences from the utilities we can add the utilities themselves in their own thread. As the national average is 11 cents/KWh we're probably doing pretty good -- of course that doesn't include delivery (~ 2 cents/KWh) and taxes but still ...
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Re: Other Utilities

Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:34 pm

My out the door cost is 10.2 cents
/kwh and is higher than the eastern part of the state but sounds like your rates are pretty good.

Either way u would be better by double over a Pruis as far as cents per mile cost
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Re: Other Utilities

Tue May 15, 2012 8:36 pm

My electric company is Alameda Power, in Alameda, CA. Our small town is an island in the San Francisco Bay, near Oakland and Berkeley (across the bridge from San Francisco). All the surrounding cities have PG&E, but we have our own power co. The City owns it, so I suppose I have to call it Socialist, and we all know how Socialism is evil and capitalism is good, except that our electric rates are vastly lower than the PG&E rates:
Tier I: 10 cents
Tier II: 12 cents
Tier III: 19 cents

They don't have SmartMeters. Instead, they have an EV program that's based on the honor system: You agree to charge only during off-peak, which is after 8 PM on weekdays. In return, they take $15.00 off of your bill. But if you prove you use a lot more EV power, they'll discount you further (the discount is supposed to be 6 cents/kWh). In my case, my Prius takes up a whopping 3.2 kWh per charge, or roughly 100 kWh/month. If that's all Tier III power, it costs $19, or $4 with my rebate. If I stay within Tier II, I'll make a profit on my electric car charging. My advice: Move to Alameda.

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Re: Other Utilities

Sat Feb 02, 2013 9:15 pm

At the risk of you all hating me, we have a municipal utility here in Cedar Falls, Iowa, and as an all electric house we get a huge discount from October 1 - May 31 to help us afford heating. Our normal rate is 6.31 cents/kWh, but in winter months after the first 800 kWh we pay only 2.85 cents/kWh which makes the new Leaf we bought this week very very cheap to charge. :)

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Re: Other Utilities

Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:01 am

Super off peak (12a to 6a) for me is 15.1 cents per kWh :(
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Re: Other Utilities

Sun Feb 03, 2013 12:59 am

Psyclonus wrote:At the risk of you all hating me, we have a municipal utility here in Cedar Falls, Iowa, and as an all electric house we get a huge discount from October 1 - May 31 to help us afford heating. Our normal rate is 6.31 cents/kWh, but in winter months after the first 800 kWh we pay only 2.85 cents/kWh which makes the new Leaf we bought this week very very cheap to charge. :)


i would gladly pay your "normal" rate
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Re: Other Utilities

Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:11 am

Psyclonus wrote:At the risk of you all hating me, we have a municipal utility here in Cedar Falls, Iowa, and as an all electric house we get a huge discount from October 1 - May 31 to help us afford heating. Our normal rate is 6.31 cents/kWh, but in winter months after the first 800 kWh we pay only 2.85 cents/kWh which makes the new Leaf we bought this week very very cheap to charge. :)

Wow! Very cheap!

Compare that to ripoff PG&E at viewtopic.php?p=261198#p261198 and old rates at viewtopic.php?p=155519#p155519.

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Re: Other Utilities

Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:18 am

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