webeleafowners
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Review of the Duosida 16 amp 120/240 EVSE with the smart ED and Leaf

Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:07 pm

Hi folks. Angela and I purchased a Duosida 16 amp 120/240 volt EVSE for use with our 2015 smart ED as well as our 2016 Nissan Leaf SV. We bought it from Brad at BSA electronics in vegas. Great guy to deal with and builds his own line of open EVSE's as well. Highly recommended.

We have a Juicebox 40 WIFI that we are very happy with but it is too big to be used as a portable unit. We wanted something that would charge the smart at 3.3KW and be small and portable enough to throw in the back of the smart. Although primarily for use with our smart it will be good for the leaf as well although it charges Max at 3.8KW and the leaf can take 6.6. We take the smart south with us behind the motorhome in the winter so its home will be primarily the smart.

One thing about the juicebox is that when on 120 volts it only sends a 12 amp pilot to the car so the smart will never draw more than 12 amps on 120. That way it can be used on 15 amp circuits with no worries of popping the breaker. However the Duosida sends a 16 amp pilot to the car so the car will draw a full 16 amps on 120 or 240 volts. That is handy when you frequent RV parks like us. We can use either the TT30 120 volt receptacle or the 50 amp 240 volt receptacle in in an RV spot. Nice. We carry the original EVSE if we need to plug into 15 amp 120 volt spot.

Here are a couple of meter readings from the Juice box first and the Duosida second. All of these readings when connected to 120 volts.


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and the Duosida

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Hopefully this info will be useful to somebody out there.


John and Angela
2015 Smart Electric Drive convertible.
2016 Nissan Leaf SV 30KW
EV only Family...well except for the big diesel motorhome. :shock:

jjeff
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Re: Review of the Duosida 16 amp 120/240 EVSE with the smart ED and Leaf

Tue Nov 14, 2017 5:02 pm

webeleafowners wrote:
One thing about the juicebox is that when on 120 volts it only sends a 12 amp pilot to the car so the smart will never draw more than 12 amps on 120. That way it can be used on 15 amp circuits with no worries of popping the breaker. However the Duosida sends a 16 amp pilot to the car so the car will draw a full 16 amps on 120 or 240 volts. That is handy when you frequent RV parks like us. We can use either the TT30 120 volt receptacle or the 50 amp 240 volt receptacle in in an RV spot. Nice. We carry the original EVSE if we need to plug into 15 amp 120 volt spot.

Here are a couple of meter readings from the Juice box first and the Duosida second. All of these readings when connected to 120 volts.


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and the Duosida

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Hopefully this info will be useful to somebody out there.


John and Angela

Can't you adjust the 120v amperage to anything you want on your Juicebox? I know I can on mine, anything from 6a to 60a, from either L1 or L2. The downside to the Duosida is you can't plug in into a standard 15a 120v outlet(if your car can draw more than 12a @ 120v like the Leafs with the 6.6kw chargers).
Warning, I would NOT suggest using your kill-a-watt on loads approaching 15a, I did and it fried my Kill-a-watt :(
2012 SL purchased used 2/'16
2013 S w/QC purchased new
Juicebox Premium 60a L1/L2 EVSE, Ebusbar 16a L1/L2 EVSE
'12 EVSEupgrade'd 20a L1/L2 EVSE, '13 EVSEupgrade'd adjustable 6-20a L2, 6-13a L1 EVSE
Zencar 13, 20, 30a L1/L2 portable EVSE
GE Durastation 30a

webeleafowners
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Re: Review of the Duosida 16 amp 120/240 EVSE with the smart ED and Leaf

Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:03 pm

Hi Jeff. So yes on the first one. Although we always have it running wide open as we have a 50 amp 240 volt plug in the garage, you can adjust it to wherever you want via the wifi connection and the App.

And yes on the kilowatt not being happy at 15 ish amps for any length of time.

Re not running on a 15 amp circuit, we could use the original EVSE for those times. When we camp we usually have a 30 amp 120 and 50 amp 240 connection so the duosida is perfect for us.

Thanks for the reply.

John
2015 Smart Electric Drive convertible.
2016 Nissan Leaf SV 30KW
EV only Family...well except for the big diesel motorhome. :shock:

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