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Re: Electrify America Network

Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:49 pm

LeftieBiker wrote:I think that 200 miles/leg is too optimistic for that transcontinental trip. 180 at most, and that would still limit it to maybe 4 EVs...
200 miles falls into my 'with extreme care' range, requiring all sorts of compromises regarding speed, route, HVAC use, wider SoC range etc. You can shorten the range as much as you wish to allow more cushion. As I said, I don't consider such trips practical, they fall into the category of 'Driving Adventure', like Tony Williams first 'BC to BC' LEAF trip. The point of those is to make it any way you can, not whether it's a practical use of someone's time.

As noted upthread, a Bolt has an EPA Hwy range of 217 miles which probably equates to a no wind, flat ground steady cruise at temps around 70 deg., of 65 +- 3 mph. 200 miles would require using up 13 of my normal minimum 30 mile reserve, no HVAC, ideal conditions, slowing below 65, etc. What I consider practical leg range (as noted in that post) between QCs is no more than 140.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:06 pm

King of Prussia, PA (Jct. I-76/276/U.S. 202) is open, making #17 for the month and #107 total.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:04 pm

Three more sites have opened, making 20 for the month and 110 total: Chubbuck, ID (I-15, just N. of Pocatello); Junction, TX (I-10, between San Antonio and El Paso); League City, TX (I-45, between Houston and Galveston).
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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:22 pm

Eastland, TX (I-20 between Ft. Worth and Abilene) has opened, #21 for the month and #111 total.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:38 pm

So 21 in 28 days. 111 of 484 cycle 1 locations. They still have 373 left to open. At this rate, that’s almost 500 days. Compared to the 132 days left to the end of the cycle. Hmmm.

I hope the rate goes up in the spring, assuming the northern states ever thaw from this frigid winter.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:29 am

I'm going to backpedal my last post just a touch. Earlier in the thread, it was revealed that EA should have the 484 Cycle 1 locations done by the end of 2019. They also said that some of the Cycle 2 locations will be open, pushing it closer to 500 stations by the close of 2019.

That's 10 months. 306 days. That's an average of 5 stations every 3 days. Who here honestly thinks they will pull it off? I have my doubts.

If they do, Guy is going to have his hands full if he is going to keep tracking them!
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Re: Electrify America Network

Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:39 pm

Four more have opened, making four for the month and 115 total. They may have been added yesterday evening, but I didn't check so I'll put them in March instead of February. Considering the awful winter weather we've been having the past two months, I'm surprised they finished as many as they did. Anyway:

Island City, OR (SR 82 nr. I-84 E. of Pendleton); Grand Junction, CO (I-70 nr. Jct. U.S. 50); Denton, TX (Jct. I-35E/W); Wake Forest, NC (Jct. U.S. 1/SR 98 N. of Raleigh).

BTW, the opening of Chubbuck, ID, makes it possible using extreme care to drive between Seattle (actually, as far south as Portland, as far north as Vancouver B.C.,or as far west as Aberdeen/Port Angeles WA) and SLC, as follows: Seattle - (North Bend, WA, 30 miles, only needed if you're coming from well N., S. or W. of Seattle) - Ellensburg, WA (80 miles, 110 from Seattle) - Spokane Valley, WA (183 miles) - Missoula, MT (184 miles) - Butte, MT (120 miles) - Dell, MT (99 miles) - Idaho Falls, ID (102 miles, can be skipped) - Chubbuck, ID (48 miles, or 147 from Dell) - Salt Lake City, UT (168 miles).

As to how much work I'll have tracking these, once they get the network established and start infilling to boost capacity I won't bother tracking them all, the same procedure I followed with SCs. I'll just mention any of interest to me that provide useful expansion of coverage/density.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:09 am

GRA wrote:Four more have opened, making four for the month and 115 total. They may have been added yesterday evening, but I didn't check so I'll put them in March instead of February. Considering the awful winter weather we've been having the past two months, I'm surprised they finished as many as they did. Anyway:

Island City, OR (SR 82 nr. I-84 E. of Pendleton); Grand Junction, CO (I-70 nr. Jct. U.S. 50); Denton, TX (Jct. I-35E/W); Wake Forest, NC (Jct. U.S. 1/SR 98 N. of Raleigh).

BTW, the opening of Chubbuck, ID, makes it possible using extreme care to drive between Seattle (actually, as far south as Portland, as far north as Vancouver B.C.,or as far west as Aberdeen/Port Angeles WA) and SLC, as follows: Seattle - (North Bend, WA, 30 miles, only needed if you're coming from well N., S. or W. of Seattle) - Ellensburg, WA (80 miles, 110 from Seattle) - Spokane Valley, WA (183 miles) - Missoula, MT (184 miles) - Butte, MT (120 miles) - Dell, MT (99 miles) - Idaho Falls, ID (102 miles, can be skipped) - Chubbuck, ID (48 miles, or 147 from Dell) - Salt Lake City, UT (168 miles).

As to how much work I'll have tracking these, once they get the network established and start infilling to boost capacity I won't bother tracking them all, the same procedure I followed with SCs. I'll just mention any of interest to me that provide useful expansion of coverage/density.
Aberdeen?? Not quite. As far as the other trips you mentioned? They were doable before although some only became available last Summer with Evita installs.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Sat Mar 02, 2019 5:24 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote: Aberdeen?? Not quite. As far as the other trips you mentioned? They were doable before although some only became available last Summer with Evita installs.
Aberdeen is easy, 118 miles to North Bend via SR 8/U.S. 101/I-5/SR 18. Even if you go through Seattle it's only 139 miles. As for Port Angeles, I was deliberately being conservative, because it's possible to make it all the way from Cape Flattery to North Bend if you take the ferry (Kingston - Edmunds) across Puget Sound (191 miles).

As for when something's doable, I'm referring to using only EA QCs. In many instances there are other QCs that will allow you to close a leg, but that means the hassle of dealing with multiple providers, usually with lower power QCs.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Sun Mar 03, 2019 7:09 am

GRA wrote:
DaveinOlyWA wrote: Aberdeen?? Not quite. As far as the other trips you mentioned? They were doable before although some only became available last Summer with Evita installs.
Aberdeen is easy, 118 miles to North Bend via SR 8/U.S. 101/I-5/SR 18. Even if you go through Seattle it's only 139 miles. As for Port Angeles, I was deliberately being conservative, because it's possible to make it all the way from Cape Flattery to North Bend if you take the ferry (Kingston - Edmunds) across Puget Sound (191 miles).

As for when something's doable, I'm referring to using only EA QCs. In many instances there are other QCs that will allow you to close a leg, but that means the hassle of dealing with multiple providers, usually with lower power QCs.
Using your EA only comments;

Only someone who doesn't live here would say Aberdeen is easy. Realize other than a Level 2 at a chevy dealership, there is no charging facilities there (unless you drive a Tesla) so all those one way distances need to be doubled for a day trip.

But that doesn't stop there. EA has no current plans to put anything in the lower Olympic Peninsula.
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