jjeff
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Re: EVSE options for 2013+ Leafs

Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:34 pm

ElectricEddy wrote:What size are the conductors and quantity from the evse to the j1772 and also the size of conductors from the evse to the supply plug?
I am also interested, but the didn't specify via e-mail to me.
Would also like to know the type of jacket on the cords(picture of the designations would do) Please and thanks.

The cord from the wall outlet to EVSE is 10 gauge and a stiffer vinal, which does get quite stiff in cold temps. Luckly it's only a couple feet, so it's not that big of a deal. The wire from the EVSE to J1772 is a very nice rubbery cord, it's metric but when I converted it, it came out to be a tad thicker than 10 gauge, very nice as mine is 8m long. The only drawback of the rubbery cord is it gets dusty if ran across a dusty/dirty garage floor, but it's easily wiped clean with a damp cloth. Even though it's ~10 gauge, it coils up quite nicely, at least the J1772 cable :)
2012 SL purchased used 2/'16
2013 S w/QC purchased new
Juicebox Premium 60a L1/L2 EVSE, Ebusbar 16a L1/L2 EVSE
'12 EVSEupgrade'd 20a L1/L2 EVSE, '13 EVSEupgrade'd adjustable 6-20a L2, 6-13a L1 EVSE
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ElectricEddy
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Re: EVSE options for 2013+ Leafs

Thu Jun 29, 2017 4:53 pm

jjeff wrote:
ElectricEddy wrote:What size are the conductors and quantity from the evse to the j1772 and also the size of conductors from the evse to the supply plug?
I am also interested, but the didn't specify via e-mail to me.
Would also like to know the type of jacket on the cords(picture of the designations would do) Please and thanks.

The cord from the wall outlet to EVSE is 10 gauge and a stiffer vinal, which does get quite stiff in cold temps. Luckly it's only a couple feet, so it's not that big of a deal. The wire from the EVSE to J1772 is a very nice rubbery cord, it's metric but when I converted it, it came out to be a tad thicker than 10 gauge, very nice as mine is 8m long. The only drawback of the rubbery cord is it gets dusty if ran across a dusty/dirty garage floor, but it's easily wiped clean with a damp cloth. Even though it's ~10 gauge, it coils up quite nicely, at least the J1772 cable :)

Thanks for the quick response .
10 gauge is good for 7200W so thats ok.
The rubber EVSE to J1772 cord is it type sj or sow? ( If you can picture with designations would be nice.)
I guess the other major concern to me and you might have to to the cord cap off to find out is if they crimped or soldered the 14-50 supply plug
( hopefully its not just stripped wire under a screw, again picture would be nice.)
None of this info was supplied to me from them and that is why I havn't purchased one yet.
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alozzy
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Re: EVSE options for 2013+ Leafs

Thu Jun 29, 2017 7:01 pm

Here's a pic of my plug

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AjONM_UrXWS8-AojwtWnO1ZSHdGj

It's stripped wire that's been soldered on the end and then clamped via the plug screws
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MalcolmReynolds
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Re: EVSE options for 2013+ Leafs

Fri Jun 30, 2017 7:29 am

JJeff, Thanks for the feedback on the 6a and on the Juicebox Pro. I am not crazy about having "internet" only access to this. I wish they would build a simple wifi web interface on these things so that you can connect and manage it locally. Are there other options that people recommend? I was looking at the Chargepoint EVSE also, but I was hoping to future proof this just a little if I can with the 40amp option on the Juicebox pro or something similar. I like the option to be able to monitor, track, and manage charges, monitor the power consumption, charging, and historical data as I feel those are very useful tools. If there are other options out there that fit that description let me know. I am still looking at my options.

I didn't think about the 6a being too low, I hope it will still work for those times when you need a charge and don't have other options. It is the crisis mode charging level for when there aren't any other options. Something is better than nothing idea. :)
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jjeff
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Re: EVSE options for 2013+ Leafs

Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:30 pm

I'm not aware of any EVSEs that are as sophisticated as the Juicebox Pro, the Zencar EVSE gives you a instantaneous and total Kwh reading, but unfortunately clear once unplugged.
I believe I read Juicebox is working on a way to directly connect to the EVSE with WiFi but as of now it's internet only and somehow through their servers. When someone asked what happened if their servers went down, their response was they had a very redundant system, of course no internet connection, no way to change the output current as of now. Again you can use the EVSE, you just can't change the output current from it's last setting.

I think you'll be OK with 6a, EVSEupgrade goes down to a 6a setting and I've never heard of anyone having a problem with it. I believe 6a is the lowest current allowed with the J1772 standard EVSEs use.
2012 SL purchased used 2/'16
2013 S w/QC purchased new
Juicebox Premium 60a L1/L2 EVSE, Ebusbar 16a L1/L2 EVSE
'12 EVSEupgrade'd 20a L1/L2 EVSE, '13 EVSEupgrade'd adjustable 6-20a L2, 6-13a L1 EVSE
Zencar 13, 20, 30a L1/L2 portable EVSE
GE Durastation 30a

ElectricEddy
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Re: EVSE options for 2013+ Leafs

Fri Jun 30, 2017 5:45 pm

alozzy wrote:Here's a pic of my plug

https://1drv.ms/i/s!AjONM_UrXWS8-AojwtWnO1ZSHdGj

It's stripped wire that's been soldered on the end and then clamped via the plug screws

Thanks for the photo.
I guess that type of termination would be ok if you keep your eye on it (use a infrared thermometer to monitor)
I might add some better form of restraint
I also see the type of cord jacket is VW-1 which a 105 c and 600V rating. Confirm or correct me if not the case.
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alozzy
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Re: EVSE options for 2013+ Leafs

Fri Jun 30, 2017 6:40 pm

You're over my head now, I don't even know how to identify VW-1 jacket
Vancouver, CA owner of a 2013 Ocean Blue SV + QC, purchased 01/2017 in WA
Zencar 12/20/24/30A L1/L2 portable EVSE
1-1/4" Curt #11396 hitch
After market, DIY LED DRLs
LeafSpy Pro + Konnwei KW902 ELM327 BT OBDII dongle
Loving my first BEV :D

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