BuckMkII
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Re: EVSE options for 2013+ Leafs

Tue May 30, 2017 5:58 am

Total noob question: I am on the verge of buying a Leaf, and have not researched the EVSE options. :o While at the dealer, it did not occur to me to ask if the car had any EVSE equipment that came with it. Emailed them last night, but until they reply I'll assume not. We have access to a couple of L2 charging spots at work that can serve as a stop-gap. They are posted with a two-hour time limit. I've only seen both occupied at once on one occasion the last few times I checked, so access seems semi-reliable.

Our needs are modest. Plan is to drive 15-25 miles per day on 30-35 mph streets, so we'll probably average about 5 kWh per day. Our detached garage has a circuit with a 20A breaker that supplies a couple of outlets that are rarely used, and then only during the day to power a hand tool or a tool battery charger. Significant upgrades to the garage's electrical panel would not be convenient or cheap!

At first glance, it seems like we can survive indefinitely with something like a Clipper Creek 12A EVSE that plugs into a standard outlet. Not a very exciting solution, but it should work.

Anyone have any alternate suggestions or caveats? Or am I doing it (more-or-less) right?
Last edited by BuckMkII on Tue May 30, 2017 8:34 am, edited 1 time in total.
2013 SV no QC, manufactured July 2013
car grew up in San Jose CA, purchased 5/31/17 in Seattle
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jjeff
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Leaf Number: 422121
Location: MSP MN

Re: EVSE options for 2013+ Leafs

Tue May 30, 2017 6:28 am

All Leafs come with a OEM 12a 120v EVSE, works very well on a 15a or more circuit. Best not to use an extension cord but if you must a 12 or even 10 gauge would be best.
You can have the factory EVSE professionally upgraded to 240v for ~$300 by EVSEupgrade.com
2012 SL purchased used 2/'16
2013 S w/QC purchased new
Juicebox Premium 60a L1/L2 EVSE, Ebusbar 16a L1/L2 EVSE
'12 EVSEupgrade'd 20a L1/L2 EVSE, '13 EVSEupgrade'd adjustable 6-20a L2, 6-13a L1 EVSE
Zencar 13, 20, 30a L1/L2 portable EVSE
GE Durastation 30a

BuckMkII
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Re: EVSE options for 2013+ Leafs

Tue May 30, 2017 6:59 am

Should have specified: I'm buying used, so the first question is whether the original equipment is still with the car.

edit: Dealer says the 110V OEM is with it, so that should get me started. Probably oughta get a new one for home eventually and keep OEM in the car for emergencies.
2013 SV no QC, manufactured July 2013
car grew up in San Jose CA, purchased 5/31/17 in Seattle
on 6/16/17 : AHr = 56.4; SOH = 86%; Hx = 84.3; ODO = 39,250

jjeff
Posts: 1303
Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:10 am
Delivery Date: 13 Jul 2014
Leaf Number: 422121
Location: MSP MN

Re: EVSE options for 2013+ Leafs

Tue May 30, 2017 1:03 pm

BuckMkII wrote:Should have specified: I'm buying used, so the first question is whether the original equipment is still with the car.

edit: Dealer says the 110V OEM is with it, so that should get me started. Probably oughta get a new one for home eventually and keep OEM in the car for emergencies.

While it's possible a used Leaf might not come with a EVSE, it's kind of useless to many without one :)
I agree with keeping one at home and another in the car, having to unwind and wind up a EVSE every day gets to be rather a pain. If you only have access to 120v(but a 20a circuit) at home I might suggest one of the cheap(<$300) 16a L1/L2's. Amazon sells them as well as 2 members here on MHL, Tony Williams and Vegas Brad. With an outlet adapter(~$20 purchased from either members or built yourself) you can use it on 120v and give yourself ~33% faster(even on 120v) charging that the OEM EVSE. If you ever get 240v the same EVSE will give you about 166% faster charging(2.66x faster than the OEM). The thing about the Clipper Creek EVSE you mentioned is it's ONLY 120v and only 12a. I guess if thats all you think you'll ever want it would be OK but IMO as long as you have access to a 20a circuit, why not take advantage of it and also have the ability to charge at 240v if you ever have access to it.
2012 SL purchased used 2/'16
2013 S w/QC purchased new
Juicebox Premium 60a L1/L2 EVSE, Ebusbar 16a L1/L2 EVSE
'12 EVSEupgrade'd 20a L1/L2 EVSE, '13 EVSEupgrade'd adjustable 6-20a L2, 6-13a L1 EVSE
Zencar 13, 20, 30a L1/L2 portable EVSE
GE Durastation 30a

alozzy
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Re: EVSE options for 2013+ Leafs

Tue May 30, 2017 2:28 pm

@BuckMkII, too bad you have only a single 20A circuit to the detached garage. With a 240V@30A circuit, you could have installed a dryer outlet and then use a Zencar 32A EVSE, set to 24A output, for 5.8 kW charging. That's what I do.

This EVSE is cheap and would work on your 110V@20A circuit:

http://www.e-zencar.net/charging-mode-2-16a/

There are other options on EBay and Amazon too. Search for 16A EVSE...
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1-1/4" Curt #11396 hitch
After market, DIY LED DRLs
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