Which would you choose for $700, L3 port or 6.6 kw charger?

L3 charge port option
29%
17
6.6 KW or higher charger option
22%
13
I want both options (but may or may not like the cost, etc)
34%
20
I don't need an L3 charge port or a more powerful charger
14%
8
What does KW mean?
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0
 
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Which would you choose for $700, L3 port or 6.6 kw charger?

Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:24 pm

Since the L3 charge port is a $700 option it would be interesting to see what people would choose if they had an option for a faster onboard charger at the same price. This assumes the price is the same for both options. The key point attempts to see if one would have a preference of one option over the other, if you would choose a more powerful onboard charger over L3 over 6.6 KW and say up to say 7.2 kw (ISH) please select the 6.6kw option.

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Re: Which would you choose for $700, L3 port or 6.6 kw charger?

Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:52 pm

I would be willing to pay $1,400 for both, however I think it is more important to add an "rate of charge" override to the Leaf so that I could charge at 1.2 KW, 3.3 KW, 6.6 KW or anything in between (up to the EVSE rating).
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Re: Which would you choose for $700, L3 port or 6.6 kw charger?

Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:56 pm

DarkStar wrote:I would be willing to pay $1,400 for both, however I think it is more important to add an "rate of charge" override to the Leaf so that I could charge at 1.2 KW, 3.3 KW, 6.6 KW or anything in between (up to the EVSE rating).



This could be user selectable since chargers like the one on the Leaf can be set via software to any charge rate (KW) easily.

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Re: Which would you choose for $700, L3 port or 6.6 kw charger?

Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:16 pm

This may be relevant in the near(?) future: http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... d-recharge

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Re: Which would you choose for $700, L3 port or 6.6 kw charger?

Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:23 pm

I haven't voted yet, and I am going to have to think about this. Either L3 or fast L2 would only be of use to me on the rare occasions when I need to charge away from home. L3 would certainly be more convenient, but for the foreseeable future it will also be much less available. Not getting L3 was an easy choice when I ordered, since it would have cost me $1640, rather than $700. (I didn't see much value in any of the extra SL features, so would have had to upgrade from SV just to get L3.) If I could have gotten L3 for $700 I might have done that. On the other hand, it appears that L3 charging may be a bit rough on the battery. On the other other hand, I'll probably lease anyway, so I would have three years to decide how the battery is doing.

I think I'm glad that I wasn't really faced with either of your $700 choices. Tough calls, indeed.
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Re: Which would you choose for $700, L3 port or 6.6 kw charger?

Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:30 pm

MikeD wrote:This may be relevant in the near(?) future: http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... d-recharge



This article is misleading and confusing, they are not developing anything new that does not already exist, it's only another high powered charger that still requires 240V. More marketing. If you want faster charging in a Leaf you need to use L3 or a larger on board charger, the later is more valuable to me.

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Re: Which would you choose for $700, L3 port or 6.6 kw charger?

Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:32 pm

DarkStar wrote:I would be willing to pay $1,400 for both, however I think it is more important to add an "rate of charge" override to the Leaf so that I could charge at 1.2 KW, 3.3 KW, 6.6 KW or anything in between (up to the EVSE rating).


Any value below the 6.6kW rating is automatically selected based on the maximum rating on the EVSE. If you wanted to go below the EVSE rating yourself, then either the charge screens have to have a setting or some other way.

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Re: Which would you choose for $700, L3 port or 6.6 kw charger?

Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:33 pm

When the range on the Leaf gets to be 200 or 300 miles, I think both of these options are going to be extremely important.

You may well need 6.6kW just to charge a larger battery pack over night.

If you could drive most of the day with only needing to Quick Charge once - this would help change or augment the market for the Leaf.

With today's pack, you may be able to live with things as is - even with just trickle charging. As the batteries improve, you may start to think about going places you won't consider right now and these other options will be crucial.

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Re: Which would you choose for $700, L3 port or 6.6 kw charger?

Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:42 pm

Driving LA to Seattle, perhaps 20 hours, but with 30-minute QCs roughly every hour, about 30 hours of "drive-and-rest". With the QC option, I hope to be able to make that trip. L2 charging would make the trip possibly, but ... VERY time consuming.
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Re: Which would you choose for $700, L3 port or 6.6 kw charger?

Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:15 pm

garygid wrote:Driving LA to Seattle, perhaps 20 hours, but with 30-minute QCs roughly every hour, about 30 hours of "drive-and-rest". With the QC option, I hope to be able to make that trip. L2 charging would make the trip possibly, but ... VERY time consuming.



And likely cause your BMS to slow the current from the charger due to thermal cut back and strain your pack considerably from the heat of the freeway loads and the charging heat.

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