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Re: Duosida EVSE Just Arrived.

Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:14 pm

alozzy wrote:It's your persistently snarky tone that I take issue with. Why don't you try a little tact?

I know that your company sells a portable EVSE that automatically adjusts the current to match the supply; however, I can't afford a $900 US EVSE. The OP stated early on that he can't afford a $900 EVSE either. So, we make do with what we've got.

I have zero concerns using my adapter cable for the purpose for which it is intended - exclusively for my portable EVSE, which allows me to set the amperage rate before I plug it in.
How about a $900 unit for half price? We have used ones.

We also sell a direct competitor to the 16 amp Duosida, built for us by the same company that built the Duosida. Ours has several changes, but the best change is interchangeable plugs (much like our $900 unit) for:

NEMA 14-50 (RV parks)
NEMA 10-30 (old dryers)
NEMA 5-15 (household 120 volt outlet)

We can even modify the 14-50 to be used with 14-30 (new dryers) and 14-20 (stoves).

But, folks who swap around amperage plugs the other way, well I've said what I think about it. You could NEVER overload a circuit with our adaptors. We just won't build them that way. We won't suggest others do, either. The danger is too great.

I've seen the leftovers from electrical hack jobs. I've also seen some of the hack jobs before they burn the place down. The only thing different between the two is the fire.

skbbks
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Re: Duosida EVSE Just Arrived.

Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:31 am

I'm just about ready to order one of these. Been quoted $188 for one with a 10-30p plug and 10-meter cord shipped via air freight.

Question is, how would I convert the plug to 5-15 120-volt? Wouldn't use it very often but would be nice to have the flexibility.
Would I buy a different input cable? A plug adapter? Any sources y'all would recommend?

jjeff
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Re: Duosida EVSE Just Arrived.

Wed Jul 19, 2017 5:58 am

Personally I would have not gone with a 10-30p, even if your outlet is a 10-30r, unless it's all you ever plan to use. Reason being, 10-30r(female version plug) is basically impossible to find. Purchasing an outlet and box is really your only choice which is bulky, costs more and isn't probably waterproof for outdoor use. Instead I would have suggested a L6-30p or L14-30p, both of which the female variety are easily found and at places like Amazon cost <$10.
In your case, unless you want to cut off your 10-30p end and wire on something like a L6-30p, your only real choice for 120v use is to purchase a 10-30p wall outlet(you may be able to find one with a built in outlet box, usually brown in color and Bakelite plastic) and wire it with a 1' piece of 10-3 wiring to a 5-15p(standard wall plug). Running the 10-30s neutral to the 5-15's ground, and one of the 10-30s hots to the 5-15 hot and the other 10-30's hot to the remaining 5-15's neutral connection. Like I said it won't really be waterproof and the 10-30r isn't really meant for outdoor use, but it would work, albeit it bulky and maybe a bit hokey looking.
https://www.amazon.com/Leviton-Dryer-Ou ... rds=10-30r
https://www.amazon.com/Superior-Electri ... rds=L6-30r
If you won't want to make one yourself you might try VegasBrad on MNL, he may sell or could custom make such adapters, I believe for ~$30 + shipping, although the price could be higher, I'm just going off memory.

10M cord, whoa thats a long one! explains the slightly higher price for your EVSE, still IMO it can't really be too long, especially if you plan on using your EVSE in a variety of places. I got a 8M and have used every bit of it on a couple occasions, safer to extend the J1772 cable than the input cable.
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skbbks
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Re: Duosida EVSE Just Arrived.

Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:07 am

I think you're right. How about an EVSE with a 6-20 plug instead, along with a 6-20R to 10-30P adapter?

Here's an example adapter:

https://www.evseadapters.com/products/n ... 7441145032

Then for plugging into 120-volt, an adapter like this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073B ... GD63&psc=1

Would this setup work better?

jjeff
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Re: Duosida EVSE Just Arrived.

Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:25 pm

skbbks wrote:I think you're right. How about an EVSE with a 6-20 plug instead, along with a 6-20R to 10-30P adapter?

Here's an example adapter:

https://www.evseadapters.com/products/n ... 7441145032

Then for plugging into 120-volt, an adapter like this:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073B ... GD63&psc=1

Would this setup work better?
Yes I wasn't sure what Duosida you were looking at but if your only looking at a 16a it should be fine to go with a 6-20 plug. Note I'm not particularly excited about the adapter you listed from Amazon, it says it's only 14 gauge, it should really be 12 gauge for 16a continuous use, I mean why they would save only pennies and skimp on 14 gauge wire is beyond me :?
I like the L6-30 plug as I prefer it's larger lugs and plugs, plus most of my EVSEs are 30a but again if you plan on mainly using 16a EVSEs and plugs, it should be fine. You'll probably have to make your 10-30p to 6-20r adapter as thats probably not a very common conversion to make. A 10-30p plug on one end, a length of 12 gauge 3 conductor wire and finally a female 6-20r plug for the other end. I suppose for 16a use the 6-20r is even more compact and lighter not to mention cheaper than the L6 locking plugs.
2012 SL purchased used 2/'16
2013 S w/QC purchased new
Juicebox Premium 60a L1/L2 EVSE, Ebusbar 16a L1/L2 EVSE
'12 EVSEupgrade'd 20a L1/L2 EVSE, '13 EVSEupgrade'd adjustable 6-20a L2, 6-13a L1 EVSE
Zencar 13, 20, 30a L1/L2 portable EVSE
GE Durastation 30a

Dayvd
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Re: Duosida EVSE Just Arrived.

Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:52 am

I realize this is an older post but I have a new Duosida that is hard to get on and off too. When you look in the ends you see part of the ends of the silver metal receptacles inside the plastic J1772 housing. On my oem 2018 Nissan leaf evse you don't see the metal. The plastic housing guides the pins onto the car charging port pins and onto the receptacles smoothly. I opened up the J1772 as per Antron X's photos and found it wasn't the springs making it tight... they were loose on the receptacles. I took them off and spread the the four prongs on the receptacles just enough so they wouldn't show when reassembled in the housing. I did spread the spring "bracelets" a little too so they woudn't tighten the receptacles when I reinstalled them. Everything works fine now. Smoothly attaches now both on and off the car's charging port. Thanks to Antron X. I'll be keeping this now. We'll see how durable they are and how long it lasts. Of course, we shouldn't have to do this if it was assembled properly. Mine is the 16Amp 240 volt with the 6-20 plug (OEM is 27.5 amps with a NEMA 14-50 plug). This fix is not for everyone as we are dealing with electricity here and possibly expensive car repairs if you damage the evse. I bought this because the reviews were 4.2 out of 5 stars wherever I looked... very few people even mentioned the tight fit. Initially I needed two hands to put the Duosida evse on and off and took care not to wiggle, etc. When I first read AntronX's post AFTER I bought this, the possibility of scratching or damaging the pins on the charging port is what got my attention. All seems well now.

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Re: Duosida EVSE Just Arrived.

Mon Apr 08, 2019 2:06 pm

You could send your EVSE to Quick Charge Power. For around $100 Tony will replace the J1772 connector.
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Re: Duosida EVSE Just Arrived.

Wed Apr 10, 2019 11:47 am

Thanks for that suggestion. I'm in Canada though. Do you know of anyone good here who does evse repairs?

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Re: Duosida EVSE Just Arrived.

Fri Apr 12, 2019 12:07 pm

Sorry, I am a US resident. I do know Tony and he may be used to customs forms. Give him a call and ask.
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2013 Pearl White SL Premium
Traded for a Cirrus White 2014 Mercedes B (totaled)
2016 Urano Gray eGolf SEL w/ drive assist
Loved the VW but it sat too low for my old body
Back to a Cirrus White 2017 B250e
White Ioniq limited.It sits just fine

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