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Re: First DC Station capable of charging at a rate of up to 350 kW, operational by 6/17?

Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:04 pm

edatoakrun wrote:No, until the infrastructure to recharge from the grid while driving on major highways is developed.

At that point, you will be little need an on-board generator (while you drive) and your battery pack need only have the capacity to cover the distance to your next destination charger or to the next electrified roadway.


As I said, vehicles you propose are now called a hybrids! Isn't interesting that few auto manufacturers haven't as yet
considered such a vehicle. Given the size of GM & Toyota, you'd think they might develop what you suggest
and call it a Volt and a Prius, respectively. I read that somewhere. Or maybe we need "tunnels" as Elon suggested
with magnetic coupling to each vehicle as it moves thru the tunnels for a long commute and for charging the
battery for the balance of the commute once it leave the tunnels? That could be a co-development with Elon's hyperloop, and be reality by 2025.

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Re: First DC Station capable of charging at a rate of up to 350 kW, operational by 6/17?

Sun Jan 08, 2017 5:45 pm

edatoakrun wrote:I think that within a decade or two, the concept of storing the energy required to travel long distances in heavy and expensive batteries, installed in privately owned vehicles, instead of simply delivering the same kWh to vehicles (autonomous, and either multi-passenger or freight carrying) while they drive, may seem (in hindsight) somewhat comical.


Inductive charging a personal road vehicle is completely impractical. To have it done while moving at speed is pure folly.You would have to go with the physical contact schemes that we are already using. Until you are talking a dedicated maglev system.
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Which all of this might project to say; in the not to distant future as the world transitions from a fossil fuel to an electric economy, personal transportation will be downsized and much more efficient. Along the lines of a 30mph ebike. And mass transit will be the only available next step up in speed.

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Re: First DC Station capable of charging at a rate of up to 350 kW, operational by 6/17?

Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:38 pm

sendler2112 wrote:
edatoakrun wrote:I think that within a decade or two, the concept of storing the energy required to travel long distances in heavy and expensive batteries, installed in privately owned vehicles, instead of simply delivering the same kWh to vehicles (autonomous, and either multi-passenger or freight carrying) while they drive, may seem (in hindsight) somewhat comical.


Inductive charging a personal road vehicle is completely impractical. To have it done while moving at speed is pure folly.You would have to go with the physical contact schemes that we are already using. Until you are talking a dedicated maglev system.
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Which all of this might project to say; in the not to distant future as the world transitions from a fossil fuel to an electric economy, personal transportation will be downsized and much more efficient. Along the lines of a 30mph ebike. And mass transit will be the only available next step up in speed.


Yes, it was tongue-in-cheek. Sorry for my attempted humor.

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Re: First DC Station capable of charging at a rate of up to 350 kW, operational by 6/17?

Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:26 am

sendler2112 wrote:Which all of this might project to say; in the not to distant future as the world transitions from a fossil fuel to an electric economy, personal transportation will be downsized and much more efficient. Along the lines of a 30mph ebike. And mass transit will be the only available next step up in speed.

I have to ask: Why would this happen? Not why should it, but why would it?

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Re: First DC Station capable of charging at a rate of up to 350 kW, operational by 6/17?

Mon Jan 09, 2017 11:15 am

In a 150 year time frame when peak crude oil is long gone? Over population and limited resources will demand a very different standard of living than what we enjoy in these current boom times.

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Re: First DC Station capable of charging at a rate of up to 350 kW, operational by 6/17?

Tue Jan 10, 2017 6:40 am

Actually we will hope for a streamlined, fully enclosed narrow track streamliner similar to this. Terry is already getting 280 mpge at 70 mph.
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Re: First DC Station capable of charging at a rate of up to 350 kW, operational by 6/17?

Mon Feb 27, 2017 9:54 am

Getting there. Tesla vows to go even further.

https://electrek.co/2017/02/27/high-pow ... abb-tesla/
'12 SL last reading @ 2 yr, 22k, 260 GIDs, 62.35 Ahr

'15 SV w/QC, Mfd 5/14, Leased 8/14, 292 GIDs, 64.38 Ahr when new

@ 25 months, 25k, 267 GID, 56.88 Ahr
@ 29 months, 29k, 286 GID, 60.88 Ahr
@ 31 months, 30.3k, 274 GID, 58.39 Ahr

6.72 kW Array

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