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Any body ever approached a business about installing a charge station.

Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:35 pm

Hi Folks. In our small town of 55000 we have 3 public level 2 stations and a single CHADEMO/CCS station. All free. Yes, including the CHADEMO. They are located in not too bad proximity down town with one being at a university that rarely gets used. We spent part of our winter in Palm Springs California and kinda got used to all the level 2 charging avaiable at malls and shopping areas and parks etc. The marketing worked. We tended to gravitate to those shopping areas and restaurants. Everybody wins.

We would like to approach a local shopping mall/area and have them consider putting in an EV charger. Maybe even help with crowd sourcing contributions to aid putting it in. There are a couple areas in town that could use a few level 2 stations but I'm not sure of the proper way to approach them. I think this type of installation may also aid the appartment dwellers who want an EV as well.

Any one been down this road. Any suggestions.

Thanks folks.
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Re: Any body ever approached a business about installing a charge station.

Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:39 pm

Yeah. They weren't interested.
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Re: Any body ever approached a business about installing a charge station.

Sat Mar 11, 2017 7:42 pm

No, but these might help.
https://www.chargepoint.com/businesses/retail/

http://voltacharging.com/retail-centers - I have used a few of their free L2 EVSEs in Fremont and San Jose, CA before. Unfortunately, because they're free, they're often busy or blocked by PHEV/EVs who are finished. :(

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Re: Any body ever approached a business about installing a charge station.

Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:30 pm

LTLFTcomposite wrote:Yeah. They weren't interested.
same here. I've tried several times for the past four years with no success. However, when I visited with a business owner who had one, I discovered that THEY actively sought out to add one. So, my takeaway message is you need to find a business owner who already knows about EVs and wants to "green up" their business. How? Beats me. However, I live in Hicksville in redneck county.
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Re: Any body ever approached a business about installing a charge station.

Sat Mar 11, 2017 11:38 pm

For several years a bunch of us tried to get Honest Weight Food Coop, a member-owned non-profit, to install one or two charging stations. First they said it "was under consideration." Then it was "planned." Then it was "not going to happen." Needless to say, it never happened. OTOH a local grocery chain, Price Chopper Supermarkets, started to install free L-2 ChargePoint stations whenever they built or renovated a store, without any pressure being applied of which I'm aware.

So what I suggest is that people go to businesses, and lobby for them NOT to install public charging stations.
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Re: Any body ever approached a business about installing a charge station.

Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:17 am

Yeah, hundreds of times. And the battle is ongoing. Nearly every business today craves feedback. Look at your receipt (both sides!) there is an option to post your thoughts on your experience. I do this EVERYTIME for every business I visit and since I practically live on the road, I have a lot of ops to provide feedback.

So tell them, you would visit more often if they had a charging station.

tell them, you love their products but would dump them in a second if their competition got a charging station.

best part of online surveys? They take about 2 mins. Simply create scripted responses and copy and paste away!
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Re: Any body ever approached a business about installing a charge station.

Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:45 am

Here is another resource. http://www.workplacecharging.com
It may not be exactly on target, but you may find some parts helpful.

I make it a point to speak with the manager of stores and businesses to thank them for the car chargers.

Also, even if they so "no".
When they get the request a second time, then a third, it will start having an influence.
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Re: Any body ever approached a business about installing a charge station.

Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:24 pm

webeleafowners wrote:Hi Folks. In our small town of 55000 we have 3 public level 2 stations and a single CHADEMO/CCS station. All free. Yes, including the CHADEMO. They are located in not too bad proximity down town with one being at a university that rarely gets used. We spent part of our winter in Palm Springs California and kinda got used to all the level 2 charging avaiable at malls and shopping areas and parks etc. The marketing worked. We tended to gravitate to those shopping areas and restaurants. Everybody wins.

We would like to approach a local shopping mall/area and have them consider putting in an EV charger. Maybe even help with crowd sourcing contributions to aid putting it in. There are a couple areas in town that could use a few level 2 stations but I'm not sure of the proper way to approach them. I think this type of installation may also aid the appartment dwellers who want an EV as well.

Any one been down this road. Any suggestions.

Thanks folks.

During the BC Livesmart Incentive program from 2012 to early 2014, there were cash rebates for commercial type installations IIRC about $15.000 limit and residential rebates for personal EVSE equipment for $500 (which I took advantage of) sourced through this webpage:
http://www.livesmartbc.ca/incentives/tr ... bates.html
Note the page now gets redirected to the new program which includes the $3k scrap it program, obviously trying to concentrate the funds into new vehicles and not so much infrastructure.
The new program for 2017 however includes incentives for multi residential buildings and updates to the building code also.
http://pluginbc.ca/40-million-new-funding-evs/
I think there will be little expansion in the commercial end until some incentive is there. It is great news though that the existing infrastructure
will be maintained and expanded to several areas re; a survey that was sent last year to all EV registered owners in BC.
pluginbc.ca/wp/wp-content/.../BC-DCFC-Gap-Analysis-Report-FBC_Aug-2015.pdf
And a map showing existing locations as well as new and under proposal :
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mi ... 437499&z=7
BTW your lucky to have a free QC setup ours is $.35/kWh plus $.50 for parking :roll:
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Re: Any body ever approached a business about installing a charge station.

Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:48 pm

Thank you all for the replys and resources. I have some work to do. Should be interesting.
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Re: Any body ever approached a business about installing a charge station.

Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:20 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:Yeah, hundreds of times. And the battle is ongoing. Nearly every business today craves feedback. Look at your receipt (both sides!) there is an option to post your thoughts on your experience. I do this EVERYTIME for every business I visit and since I practically live on the road, I have a lot of ops to provide feedback.

So tell them, you would visit more often if they had a charging station.

tell them, you love their products but would dump them in a second if their competition got a charging station.

best part of online surveys? They take about 2 mins. Simply create scripted responses and copy and paste away!


I did that with a gym. They sent out an online survey and I filled it in saying I wished they put in EVSEs since it would be a great place to charge. I was very surprised when I got an email back from the President of the company, a large US-national company, and we set up a time to chat on the phone. He was inquisitive and asked lots of curiosity questions as well as financials. Nothing ever came of it, but at least someone somewhere reads these things and it may percolate up to the top.

Personally I don't think it ever makes any financial sense to install a charging station as a source of income. But installing it to be a source of foot traffic is a wonderful thing. I go to a cinema twice as far away because they have charging stations which means I frequent those restaurants and stores as well. But I won't pay for a charge. I can do that at home. Charging is a convenience for me, not a necessity. I will gladly pay the business owner many times over their few pennies of electricity. $12 for a bucket of popped corn? I think they can spare the cost of a charge...
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