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Re: How to get more charging stations.

Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:13 pm
by SageBrush
OP: is your home on plugshare ?

Re: How to get more charging stations.

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 3:54 pm
by IssacZachary
Well, I'm in the process of ordering an EVSE from ZENCAR that will work with both 120V and 240V and that can adjust between 12, 16, 24 and 32amps. I'm planning on making all sorts of adapters. There are places on PlugShare that have 14-50 plugs, so this ought to open up my horizons a little bit. I'm even tempted of running an ad in places that I go to but don't have anything on PlugShare, something along the lines of "make a little money off your 240V outlet."

Yes I'm on PlugShare too.

Re: How to get more charging stations.

Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 4:42 pm
by Reddy
Sage advice from others. Unfortunately, I can't give you much hope either. I've personally had very little luck in a semi-rural, conservative community of 200,000. What can you expect in those tiny burgs, barely blinks on the side of the road? My few successes are DIRECTLY related to Tesla's destination charging program, and they are hard fought successes with years of failures (I'll reach my 6 yr EV anniversary this month). Just today I christened my latest success, a local organic winery with solar panels: https://api.plugshare.com/view/location/124125 Unfortunately, I have been unable to convince business owners of the benefits of installing a charging stations, even when I offer to pay for the unit and installation! They all freak out over insurance and the cost of electricity, which is essentially NO ADDITIONAL cost for a business that already has insurance and electricity. The allure of Tesla seems to convince these businesses of the legitimacy, something that nobody else seems to have. That said, you won't be able to convince Tesla or any other business to install charging stations in those "towns" that you mentioned. Your best bet is to purchase land, and start you own. knowing full well that you'll lose money in the process. One possibility that you didn't mention, and probably has a better chance of success, is Sargents, CO at the RV park behind the Tomichi Creek Trading Post. At least these folks have made it into the 21st Century (http://tomichicreektradingpost.com/index.php/rates-availability/rv-teepee-camping-rates/). Good luck.

Re: How to get more charging stations.

Posted: Thu Aug 17, 2017 12:45 pm
by eatsleafsandshoots
The big way to get more charging stations will be to get gas prices to go up. Nobody really wants to pay anything to charge, since even the most nominal fees are usually more than just charging at home. That leaves free stations, which are a hard sell.

Re: How to get more charging stations.

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:51 am
by remarquian
eatsleafsandshoots wrote:The big way to get more charging stations will be to get gas prices to go up. Nobody really wants to pay anything to charge, since even the most nominal fees are usually more than just charging at home. That leaves free stations, which are a hard sell.



I would be willing to pay a premium for fast charging that extends the range of my 30Kwh Leaf.

With an L2 charger at home, I don't need local charging.

Re: How to get more charging stations.

Posted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 9:04 am
by IssacZachary
remarquian wrote:
eatsleafsandshoots wrote:The big way to get more charging stations will be to get gas prices to go up. Nobody really wants to pay anything to charge, since even the most nominal fees are usually more than just charging at home. That leaves free stations, which are a hard sell.



I would be willing to pay a premium for fast charging that extends the range of my 30Kwh Leaf.

With an L2 charger at home, I don't need local charging.

Same here. I've paid $10 for about 10kWh at a fast charger and $5 for less than 5kWh at a level 2 and don't care that is was that expensive.

Energy for energy, if gasoline is at $3 per gallon then if electricity is at $0.10 the price is the same. But I also get 120 electric miles per gallon in my Leaf, so comparing the price to a 30mpg car the price could be 4 times that at $0.40 per kWh. But still, I mostly charge at home anyway, so even if the price were more, $1 to $2 dollars per kWh, I'd still pay it. Renting a car is $40 per day plus fuel. So about 5 x $10 EVgo non-member charges is about equivalent to renting for the day, except the next day I can probably charge from the home I'm staying at instead of paying another $40 plus fuel. I also get to drive my own personal car.