speedski97
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Re: Meter for Wall Plug

Wed Aug 30, 2017 7:38 pm

Juice Box pro can do that. the HOA could pull the KWH and time of use,them self with a wifi connection it would be easy for everyone. The EVSE is easy to install and works on 120 VAC or 240VAC and you can turn it off with your cell phone. If in CA there is money and lower rates for EV charging in Apartments. the other way that is easy and gives a lot of info is " Fleetcarma " which is used for tracking fleet use of EVs. Their units will plug into obd connector on the car and give a lot of info like charging by amount ,location , and time. Anther note would be that in some states they can't resell power by the KWH? If it was me I would work on just giving then Cash above what you think you have used. IMHO I think it would be easier then the headache of tracking it.
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Re: Meter for Wall Plug

Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:46 am

speedski97 wrote:The EVES is easy to install


It's EVSE, not "EVES". (Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment.) I wasn't gonna comment, but you keep typing this. :)

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Re: Meter for Wall Plug

Fri Sep 01, 2017 11:40 am

Thanks all,

I called PG&E and they support a meter install that bills it to me but sounds like it would be too costly.

I'm gonna check with the HOA and see if they'll just agree to have me pay them based on usage that I track with one of these monitors that is mentioned.
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ebeighe
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Re: Meter for Wall Plug

Fri Sep 01, 2017 2:39 pm

jjeff wrote:I'd also advise against a Kill-a-watt for EVSE use, and I own several. As mentioned they might be OK for <10a continuous use but a EVSE draws 12a and IMO thats just too close to the max 15a of the KW for continuous use...

I can attest to that, I sort of forgot i had my level 1 charger plugged into the kill-a-watt and it went dead in about an hour or two.
What blew was an "SEFUSE" component inside the kill-a-watt , it's rated for 15A and 99 degrees C (so 210 F).
I'm puzzled why it blew?
Ambient temp was about 100 degrees F but nothing seems anything warmer than mildly hot, even after many hours of charging.

I ordered some replacements (they need to be soldered) but otherwise the kill-a-watt is fine.
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wmcbrine
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Re: Meter for Wall Plug

Fri Sep 01, 2017 6:14 pm

I've used the Kill-a-watt with my i-MiEV's level 1 EVSE with no problem, but that only does 8 amps. ;)

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Re: Meter for Wall Plug

Sat Sep 02, 2017 7:42 am

http://www.hialeahmeter.com/siphwame.html

prices have gone up. Keep in mind, these meters require a base which "was" $11.

What I did is removed the cover plate from the outlet and mounted the meter on to the outlet using surface conduit to reinstall outlet next to the meter.

I got a digital one that was $18 plus cover plate $11 plus random parts about $10. This was used when I went 240...

FYI; I used a Killawatt meter for my LEAF charging @ 120 volts....well essentially nearly ALL the time it was home and never had issues with it burning up. Granted, I only did this daily for 3½ months so maybe you should just do that...
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Re: Meter for Wall Plug

Sun Sep 03, 2017 10:39 am

My kill-a-watt melted after a few months when I used it at my charger outlet.

I was planning to record each month's charging usage. Though it worked for several months, I forgot and never recorded a single month's usage. So I did not get any data, and lost the kill-a-watt while trying to do that.

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Re: Meter for Wall Plug

Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:29 pm

The meter Jeff suggests keeps a reset-able NV KWH. It stays there until you reset it. The only thing I dislike about it is the button is three function but if you hold it long enough for the display to flash it works fine.
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Re: Meter for Wall Plug

Mon Sep 04, 2017 3:33 pm

ebeighe wrote:
jjeff wrote:I'd also advise against a Kill-a-watt for EVSE use, and I own several. As mentioned they might be OK for <10a continuous use but a EVSE draws 12a and IMO thats just too close to the max 15a of the KW for continuous use...

I can attest to that, I sort of forgot i had my level 1 charger plugged into the kill-a-watt and it went dead in about an hour or two.
What blew was an "SEFUSE" component inside the kill-a-watt , it's rated for 15A and 99 degrees C (so 210 F).
I'm puzzled why it blew?
Ambient temp was about 100 degrees F but nothing seems anything warmer than mildly hot, even after many hours of charging.

I ordered some replacements (they need to be soldered) but otherwise the kill-a-watt is fine.



Over the years there have been several designs. My two are different. In any event the one that blew up had no fusing at all. It just melted the soldered connections.
2012 Cayenne Red SL traded for:
2013 Pearl White SL Premium
Traded for a Cirrus White 2014 Mercedes B (totaled)
2016 Urano Gray eGolf SEL w/ drive assist
Loved the VW but it sat too low for my old body
Back to a Cirrus White 2017 B250E

speedski97
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Re: Meter for Wall Plug

Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:44 pm

let us know what the outcome is. It helps the group to know if it works out or you get shot down. good luck.

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