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Re: Electrify America Network

Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:05 pm

Via IEVS:
Electrify America Signs Deal For “Interoperable” EV Charging
https://insideevs.com/electrify-america-interoperable-charging/

Throw away all your EV charging network cards. The new thing is “interoperability.”
Electrify America, the Volkswagen subsidiary, announced today that it signed a deal that effectively creates a combined network of 12,500 interoperable electric car charging stations. The term “interoperable” doesn’t exactly roll off your tongue, but it’s critical to transforming today’s patchwork of charging companies into a unified, refueling system that can be accessed by all EV drivers. The new interconnected network of chargers located at shopping centers, convenience stores, and workplaces will come online on June 30, 2019.

Based on the new agreement, future Electrify America customers will be able to charge their electric vehicles at stations operated by EV Connect, Greenlots, and SemaConnect. “EV customers are the big winners with these network interoperability agreements,” said Brendan, Jones, chief operating officer at Electrify America. “Drivers will now be able to roam between charging networks without the need for additional cards or accounts.” Electrify America, which is investing $2 billion in EV infrastructure and education in the next 10 years, wants EV drivers to have ready and easy access to refueling—just like today’s drivers of gas-powered cars enjoy. . . .
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Re: Electrify America Network

Fri Oct 19, 2018 5:35 am

I was all excited when I saw that map. Then I realized that a large number of those ones I care about (in upstate NY) are L2. Useless for travelling.

Still, interoperability is a good thing - it's annoying to have an entire folder of apps on my phone and a collection of RFID cards in my car just so I can charge.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:24 am

Then I realized that a large number of those ones I care about (in upstate NY) are L2. Useless for travelling.

Yup -- pretty much a lost cause these days since they were placed with the idea of serving a 15 - 25 kWh EV fleet that has not materialized. I still think the idea is sound for workplace charging but the country prefers large large battery EVs and DC charging. At least they prefer the latter when they are not whining about the car cost.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:52 am

GetOffYourGas wrote:I was all excited when I saw that map. Then I realized that a large number of those ones I care about (in upstate NY) are L2. Useless for travelling.

Still, interoperability is a good thing - it's annoying to have an entire folder of apps on my phone and a collection of RFID cards in my car just so I can charge.


This is EA network we are talking about? Because around here, its just the opposite. All the sites have L3 ONLY with no L2 options.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Fri Oct 19, 2018 1:59 pm

DaveinOlyWA wrote:
GetOffYourGas wrote:I was all excited when I saw that map. Then I realized that a large number of those ones I care about (in upstate NY) are L2. Useless for travelling.

Still, interoperability is a good thing - it's annoying to have an entire folder of apps on my phone and a collection of RFID cards in my car just so I can charge.


This is EA network we are talking about? Because around here, its just the opposite. All the sites have L3 ONLY with no L2 options.


No Dave. It is the other networks with which EA is working on compatibility.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Mon Oct 22, 2018 6:57 pm

Forgot to mention that with three sites (Sullivan/Lebanon/Mt. Vernon) now open on I-44, travel between St. Louis and Tulsa, OK is now possible. One more around Tulsa will get all the way to OKC, although there isn't one listed in the current 'coming soon' list.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:22 am

Last night, EA completely revamped their website. They brought back a zoomable map, but removed all the "future" markers from it. Now it's just "open" and "coming soon". It's really hard to see numbers, though, unless I'm missing it. I noticed that they added a "coming soon" station to Albany NY for example. I'm sure they added a ton more across the country.


https://www.electrifyamerica.com/locate-charger
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Re: Electrify America Network

Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:45 pm

I was pleasantly surprised when I went o EA's site to check out new planned sites announced at GCC on the Ohio Turnpike aka I76, 80 & 90: https://www.greencarcongress.com/2018/10/20181023-ea.html to see that zoom and scroll are back. I don't know if my email request for this had anything to do with it, but I'll take it! The lack of the numbered list for open and coming soon is a minor issue now that there are a substantial number of sites open and we can zoom and scroll, and I can't say I've ever noticed its lack on supercharge.info. I may try to count all the coming soon icons, but at the rate they're being opened I don't know that it matters.

I count three more now open for 27 total. The new ones are Bloomsburg (I-80) and Carlisle (I-76/81), PA, and Commerce (I-85/U.S. 441), GA. Depending on whether you count the two north/south SC sites in CT individually or together, Tesla had completed either 27 or 29 SCs in their first year (10/19/12 to 10/18/13), so EA has done the same in a bit over 5.5 months (5/2/18 to 10/22/18), with twelve opened so far this month.

EA has also released (114 pages but only 16 pages of meat, the rest is appendices listing all media buys for education) its
Third Quarter 2018 Report to
California Air Resources Board
https://elam-cms-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/inline-files/Electrify%20America%20Q3%202018%20Quarterly%20Report%20-%20Public.pdf

Signed leases in the 160 target zones for high-power QCs have increased from 71 at the end of Q2 to to 97 end Q3, but
Although Electrify America obtained its
first 13 permits in California during Q3, the permitting process for EV charging stations in California took
on average 56 business days, which is nearly twice the national average. Electrify America has obtained
more than ten times as many permits outside of California as it has obtained within California, and
Electrify America considers permitting delays and costly station changes resulting from permitting
processes to be the largest threat to meeting the Cycle 1 California ZEV Investment Plan commitments
on time and on budget.

To address this challenge, Electrify America reached out to California state agencies, including the
Governor's Office of Business and Economic Development (GoBIZ) and the California Legislature, to
communicate concern that some local jurisdictions are not complying with A.B. 1236’s requirement that
all jurisdictions establish a specific EV charging station permitting process that is “timely and costeffective,”
and that permits can only be denied if a health or safety issue has been documented. Thanks
to engagement from the Governor’s office and Electrify America’s direct engagement with local
jurisdictions, improved EV station permitting processes were established in some jurisdictions, including
Sacramento, Los Angeles County, and Rocklin. . . .

In Q3, Electrify America also dedicating substantial resources to this challenge. Electrify America
relocated its National Construction Manager from Virginia to California, shifted project management
personnel from other parts of the nation to California, opened a California office, and leveraging
Government Affairs staff to meet with jurisdictions all over the state. Electrify America reached out to
more than a dozen jurisdictions to discuss permitting challenges before permit applications have even
been submitted, in order to discuss A.B. 1236 requirements and identify areas of local concern in the
station design stage.

Despite these efforts, Electrify America had to cancel planned stations during Q3 in a few jurisdictions
due to onerous requirements and lengthy permitting timelines that could not be met within Cycle 1
timeframes and budget requirements, reducing charging services in these communities.
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Re: Electrify America Network

Wed Oct 24, 2018 5:26 pm

EA does still list both open and coming soon sites (click on the slide bar icon), and there are now 131 of the latter listed (with addresses).
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Re: Electrify America Network

Wed Oct 24, 2018 6:04 pm

Pro tip - the list only seems to include chargers within the current map. My default zoom shows no chargers open or coming soon, but they start to appear as you zoom out.

131 locations is a huge leap forward. Maybe they'll make their first deadline after all.
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