bas207
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Dryer outlet and 240 charger

Fri May 11, 2018 12:50 pm

Hi,

I bought a 2015 Leaf in January and have been using the 110 charger that came with the car. My garage has a 240 dryer outlet, however, and I'd like to have the option of using it when I need to charge a bit more quickly.

I have two questions:

1) Do I need to have an electrician make any modifications to the outlet, or will a 240 charging station work directly with the existing outlet? (An image of the outlet is found at https://imgur.com/a/By0OxLv.)

2) Can anyone recommend an affordable charger that's appropriate for my vehicle? I don't need a top-of-the-line, super-fast charger--just a bit faster than overnight charging.

I really appreciate any advice!

-bas207

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Re: Dryer outlet and 240 charger

Fri May 11, 2018 1:16 pm

If the dryer circuit is in good shape it will work fine. I suggest the Clipper Creek HCS 30 charging station. It is rated for a 30 amp circuit and you can request it with a dryer plug installed.
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Re: Dryer outlet and 240 charger

Fri May 11, 2018 3:56 pm

That's not a dryer outlet. It's a NEMA 6-50, a 240v 50a outlet often used for welders. You need to check the breaker attached to see if it's actually a 50a circuit or a 40. I've even heard of them being on a 30a breaker. You can certainly use it whatever size the circuit actually is... You just need to get an EVSE that matches the circuit.
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Re: Dryer outlet and 240 charger

Fri May 11, 2018 4:37 pm

Fortunately, NEMA 6-50 is very common on EVSEs.

Unfortunately, that's the oldest 6-50 I've ever seen. It... doesn't look quite right...

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Re: Dryer outlet and 240 charger

Fri May 11, 2018 5:43 pm

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Re: Dryer outlet and 240 charger

Fri May 11, 2018 6:57 pm

http://www.zencar.net/product/32a-evse- ... sae-j1772/

$300, delivery right to your door. I've had zero issues with mine.
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Re: Dryer outlet and 240 charger

Fri May 11, 2018 7:09 pm

alozzy wrote:http://www.zencar.net/product/32a-evse-portable-adjustable-sae-j1772/

$300, delivery right to your door. I've had zero issues with mine.
Although NEMA 6-50 is not listed.
Need to swap plugs.
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Re: Dryer outlet and 240 charger

Fri May 11, 2018 7:33 pm

Not only is it important to check the breaker size, it is perhaps even more important to check the wiring to make sure that it "matches" the breaker (preferably 50a because of the 50a receptacle). and that the insulation is still in good shape. If you are doubtful about the condition of any component (esp. breaker, wiring, or receptacle) -- replace it. I say this partly because I have never yet moved into a house and not found the wiring screwed up in some way -- and the older the house, the more likely that it matters.

BTW Nissan appears to be wary of the age aspect because in their "2018 Leaf Owner's Manual" they warn: "Do not use the EVSE in structures more than 40 years old.". I take this to mean to be on the side of safety, don't use any circuit component more than 40 years old.

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Re: Dryer outlet and 240 charger

Sat May 12, 2018 4:11 am

smkettner wrote:
alozzy wrote:http://www.zencar.net/product/32a-evse-portable-adjustable-sae-j1772/

$300, delivery right to your door. I've had zero issues with mine.
Although NEMA 6-50 is not listed.
Need to swap plugs.

I believe they will put on any plug you want, at least that was the way when I ordered mine.
I ended up with a L6-30 plug to match my garage outlet and use outlet adapters I've made to go to other outlet types.
Note because mine came with a L6-30 plug they restricted my top charging current to 30a(although my Leaf tops out at 27.5a) if you ordered it with say a 14-50 plug they would give you a 32a option which is the max for the supplied metric J1772 cable.
IMO a big advantage to something like the Zen charger is its adjustable and also works on 120v with outlet adapters, Clipper Creek while a very good EVSE is only L2 and non user adjustable(of course it dials down if the car requests it).
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Re: Dryer outlet and 240 charger

Sat May 12, 2018 7:45 am

jjeff wrote:Note because mine came with a L6-30 plug they restricted my top charging current to 30a
With a 30 amp circuit the EVSE should be limited to 80% or 24 amps.
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