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EVDRIVER

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The L2 residential unit is supposed to go on sale February 16. I don't know the pricing but I know this info is accurate.

http://static.schneider-electric.us/docs/Electrical%20Distribution/electric-vehicle-charging/Electric%20Vehicle%20Charging%20Solutions%20Brochure.pdf
 
I like seeing all these L2 and L3 products, but what will get me really excited is seeing them in the wild.
 
UL just listed the Schneider Square D charging station (model EV2430WS).

More info here:
http://www.pluginamerica.org/accessories/schneider-electric-square-d

Schneider has also posted new documents, like an installation guide, a user's guide, and a product catalog which contains all the specs for the new models. Links for all those are on the page above.

Wish we knew the price.
 
Only 18' e-hose.
Only current setting apparently 30 amps.
Apparently Indoor only
Apparently Hardwired only
Also, their stated "5 ma" GFI current detection level seems too low.
 
http://static.schneider-electric.us/docs/Electrical%20Distribution/electric-vehicle-charging/S1A87414.pdf

http://static.schneider-electric.us/docs/Electrical%20Distribution/electric-vehicle-charging/S1A87413.pdf

http://static.schneider-electric.us/docs/Electrical%20Distribution/electric-vehicle-charging/2800CT1001.pdf
 
"Cable" is a very general term.

By "e-hose" (like a gas hose and nozzle at a gas station), I was referring to a particular type of drive-over tested, 4-conductor cable, connected to an EVSE at one end and with a J1772 plug at the other end, used for providing "e-fuel" to (charging) an EV, not just any wires, sometimes enclosed-in-insulation (telephone cable, under-sea cable, RF cable, message sent by wire, etc).

Perhaps a better term will emerge.

Some might like using the more general terms "charger", "cable", and "plug" or "connector".
 
garygid said:
"Cable" is a very general term.

By "e-hose" (like a gas hose and nozzle at a gas station), I was referring to a particular type of drive-over tested, 4-conductor cable, connected to an EVSE at one end and with a J1772 plug at the other end, used for providing "e-fuel" to (charging) an EV, not just any wires, sometimes enclosed-in-insulation (telephone cable, under-sea cable, RF cable, message sent by wire, etc).

Perhaps a better term will emerge.

Some might like using the more general terms "charger", "cable", and "plug" or "connector".

ok, then EVSE cable, it is a cable and it is NOT a hose. "e-fuel" is another term you made up, but it bothers me less because electricity could be argued to be a fuel, but it again just seems easier to use the existing term of fuel or electricity rather than e-fuel. Why this need to create new names?
 
garygid said:
Apparently Indoor only
Look at the 2011 Catalog with Specs. There are two enclosures available, a Type 1 indoor, and a NEMA 3R indoor/outdoor.
 
1. I just read the EVSE "specs" on their web page, which might need updating.

2. We use "gas" because "gasoline" (a form of "oil") was a bit long. Likewise, electricity is long (and a fairly general term), and kilowatt-hours is a bit long, as is "miles per kilowatt-hour". We frequently use "mpg" because even "miles per gallon" is a bit too long. So, it is fun to anticipate what the "short form" of EVSE ("charger" is already more popular), EVSE Cable, kWh, etc. will be in 10 years. Sorry, I have no intention of offending andbody by speaking of edies, e-fuel, or other easy-to-say descriptive terms. Maybe others will come up with other, better, more popular terms. I doubt that the technical term "EVSE" will survive in public for long.
 
Am I crazy in hoping that this will be priced the same (or lower) than the AV unit and that it can be delivered before April? Because if both of those are true I am all over this.
 
Right, a good example.

Charge Station (already shortened from Location for Charging Stations) might include EVSEs, or not, and might only have "normal" sockets to plug into.

As plug-in EVSEs become common, simple, much less expensive, "safe" sockets will probably become common as well.
 
palmermd said:
Why this need to create new names?
Probably the same reason that people feel the need to "quote" every other word in their posts...

PS - I'm with you on the "e-hose" thing! ;)
 
EVDRIVER said:
The L2 residential unit is supposed to go on sale February 16. I don't know the pricing but I know this info is accurate.
I know it's early, but I'm getting anxious. Any word on this?
 
palmermd said:
garygid said:
I doubt that the technical term "EVSE" will survive in public for long.

EVSE is already changing to charge station on all the "charge station finder" websites and apps.

Is an EVSE any less a charger than a cell phone charger? A cell phone charger may change the the voltage but it doesn't provide any control over the charging process. Still everyone accepts that terminology, and we don't feel compelled to call it a CPSE.

From Dictionary.com...
charger
-noun
1. a person or thing that charges.

Charger is to charging station as gas pump is to Flying J :D
 
Most "chargers" are just (sometimes regulated) DC power supplies, changing 120v (or 240v) AC power into DC power, often 5v or 12v. Similar to a DC QC (L3) "charger", the charging "controller" is usually inside the device to which they supply DC power. The exact voltage, current rating, and amount of regulation varies GREATLY, so they should usually NOT be considered interchangeable. They are also called "wall-warts" by some, sucking their nourishment from the wall.

The EVSE for supplying AC power to the EV does not change the power at all, just like a simple power cord or an extension cord, which are never called "chargers". They are "power cords". The L1 & L2 EVSEs incorporate an intelligent On/Off switch, for increased safety. They are included in most "charging stations" (or docks, or perhaps even e-pump), located at a "charging location" (or station, or perhaps even e-station), because they "sell" (charge for, and turn On and Off) the "fuel" needed by E-Vehicles, which could be called e-fuel.

As these terms become more common, it will be interesting to watch the names evolve and shorten.
 
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