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Re: Copper wire thieves

Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:49 am

Copper sword stolen from statue at Lincoln's Tomb:
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Re: Copper wire thieves

Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:38 am

A company I work with from time to time installed a EVSE in the back lot for its employees about a month ago. Last week the J1772 cable was cut at the unit and the cable and connector stolen. They have elected not to replace it until they can figure out a way to secure it. Unfortunately, I suspect we may see more of this when EVSEs aren't placed in front or some other highly visible and accessible location...
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Re: Copper wire thieves

Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:54 am

In Europe, many charging pedestals tend to have only a socket and the EV driver carries a cable with them in the car.
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Leaving a cable unattended 24x7 may not be the best idea.

Also with each car having their own cable, if one gets stolen it doesn't disable the location as someone else can come along with their own cable.

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Re: Copper wire thieves

Sun Nov 13, 2011 10:58 am

TomT wrote:A company I work with from time to time installed a EVSE in the back lot for its employees about a month ago. Last week the J1772 cable was cut at the unit and the cable and connector stolen.


Much simpler if they just installed a few 120V sockets.. not as sexy but it works.

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Re: Copper wire thieves

Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:15 am

It seems a "J1772 extension" cord should be possible. For the same reason that the plug end of the cable is safe, they could put the 'plug' prongs in the pedestal. Then a visitor would bring their own Male-to-Female cable to charge.

I wouldn't be too thrilled about this.. likely a $300 extension cord, with the same opportunity for theft and damage, along with the hassle of packing/unpacking a dirty cable at stops.

I just don't have a lot of faith that this problem will go away. Copper theft is a universal problem, and only getting worse.

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Re: Copper wire thieves

Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:17 am

TEG wrote:... Also with each car having their own cable, if one gets stolen it doesn't disable the location as someone else can come along with their own cable.
Of course, that poor soul is out a REALLY expensive cable, and likely can't charge anywhere...maybe not even at home.
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Re: Copper wire thieves

Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:26 am

Maybe the L1 cable should have plugs on both ends but something tells me the interlocks could be a problem if the car end was attached before the EVSE end.

If a fine stranded aluminum cable could be made that would be less attractive than copper but not sure how well fine stranded aluminum wiring would handle fatigue from flexing.
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Re: Copper wire thieves

Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:37 pm

Nekota wrote:Maybe the L1 cable should have plugs on both ends but something tells me the interlocks could be a problem if the car end was attached before the EVSE end.

If a fine stranded aluminum cable could be made that would be less attractive than copper but not sure how well fine stranded aluminum wiring would handle fatigue from flexing.
An aluminum cable wouldn't work because the thieves wouldn't likely know it wasn't copper until after they cut it, and maybe not even then.
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Re: Copper wire thieves

Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:38 pm

When wireless charging becomes the new standard, this won't be a problem...
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Re: Copper wire thieves

Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:23 pm

But of limited value if someone actually needs a substantial charge to get home or wherever. 120 is just too slow.

Herm wrote:
TomT wrote:A company I work with from time to time installed a EVSE in the back lot for its employees about a month ago. Last week the J1772 cable was cut at the unit and the cable and connector stolen.
Much simpler if they just installed a few 120V sockets.. not as sexy but it works.
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